Are there any plans to fix the 'Haurchefant' localization?

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Can't fix what ain't broken.

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They flat-out admitted it was a mistake and apologized after people got upset over it all.

I don't like the way Haurchefant was re-written and want them to fix him by going back and doing a proper re-implementation of the narrative elements and assets so that way it's all in-line with the JP characterization and the vision is more consistent, or, at the very least, making it to where the text spoken is in-line with whatever language option the player has set.

I would honestly prefer that much more, since it accommodates those who prefer the revisionism and satisfies those who want the 'true' vision.

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Originally Posted by Telkira

Considering all the character does in the story for you, that seems pretty petty. I can understand not being amused by the trope or even creeped out by it, but it's not like there's any real harm to it.

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I am a lesbian, any male character who acts like I heard Haurch acts in the JP version unprompted is a sure-fire way to make me not stand him, it's different if it's a game with romance options and I accidentally trip a romance flag because I mishead how a response is supposed to come off as, especially if the game gives me the chance to back out of it, or at least if the character backs off after getting turned down once, but that wasn't the case with him at all.

Even G'raha can get on my nerves at his most extreme, and I am on the camp of vastly preferring the Crystal Exarch over the current G'raha, my tolerance for this stuff is generally low.

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Originally Posted by Telkira

They flat-out admitted it was a mistake and apologized after people got upset over it all.

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Could we get a source on that?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Could we get a source on that?

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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...83#post3450983

"As the individual who pushed for these changes, I would like to sincerely apologize to our fans, as well as Yoshi-P and our scenario team. It was never my intention to deprive our players of a memorable character or elaborate cutscenes, and to this day I deeply regret how I handled this situation."

The fact that the person who ruined what would have otherwise been a better character (at least in *my* opinion) is a good thing.

I want them to consider going back and doing a proper re-implementation of the narrative assets, one that's not only consistent across all languages, but also true to the character's initial inception, if not outright having such a preference be respected as an option in the Settings menu.

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Originally Posted by Telkira

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...83#post3450983

"As the individual who pushed for these changes, I would like to sincerely apologize to our fans, as well as Yoshi-P and our scenario team. It was never my intention to deprive our players of a memorable character or elaborate cutscenes, and to this day I deeply regret how I handled this situation."

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Thanks for the source!

damn, I'm so glad they weren't able to ruin English Haurchefant, he was so good. Thank God for that reckless localization team.

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

I am a lesbian, any male character who acts like I heard Haurch acts in the JP version unprompted is a sure-fire way to make me not stand him, it's different if it's a game with romance options and I accidentally trip a romance flag because I mishead how a response is supposed to come off as, especially if the game gives me the chance to back out of it, or at least if the character backs off after getting turned down once, but that wasn't the case with him at all.

Even G'raha can get on my nerves at his most extreme, and I am on the camp of vastly preferring the Crystal Exarch over the current G'raha, my tolerance for this stuff is generally low.

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I understand, I'm not gay (I know, shocker) but I certainly would have been amused by him. Difference of opinion, I guess.

Still, though. His archetype certainly isn't new, you see it in lots of Japanese media and honestly it wasn't as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
I feel like if people engaged with the story as literally just a story in a video game and not a virtualized projection of one's self, so to speak, then such things wouldn't feel as off-putting.

I've seen people genuinely react with vigor at the way he was written in the JP version, like with utmost disgust like they were being assaulted.
To those people I suggest therapy.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Thanks for the source!

damn, I'm so glad they weren't able to ruin English Haurchefant, he was so good. Thank God for that reckless localization team.

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I feel as though he was objectively better in the Japanese script and actually did more for the tone and mood of the setting than he does in the English one. Characters are designed to be pieces of a scene, not be the scene themselves, and such a sentiment cannot be said enough in the context of an RPG.

He stuck out like a sore thumb and I could feel that something was missing from him. I also feel as though the person who pushed for these changes simply opted to leave him as-is, something else would have filled that gap, or that it would have been forgiven or just not as acknowledged.

Regardless of which version is better or worse, they won't go back and redo it. They can't match the voice actor anymore, since they switched to a UK-based studio from Heavensward on.

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Originally Posted by Telkira

Do tell, please.

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Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. it was basically a beginners tutorial to acrual jrpgs but meh was ok for what it was

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Regardless of which version is better or worse, they won't go back and redo it. They can't match the voice actor anymore, since they switched to a UK-based studio from Heavensward on.

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Why not go back and make it to where his dialog and characterization lines up with the Japanese version, so long as the audio option is set to Japanese? I would MUCH prefer that, so that way people who like watered down revisionist garbage can be happy with their content and people like me who value faithfulness and consistency can have what we want? That way everyone wins.

It wouldn't be that difficult either, I've worked in QA before and did some localization testing.