Broken Lottery, Please Rollback

I'm sure what happened is they programmed in a 0 for plots no one bid on. Most likely when the patch went live, code got messy and suddenly there's a chance you can get 0 as a result. When that happens it bugs out, and says no one participated (as it is programmed to do in the event no one did). It's more common on FC houses because there are fewer bidders than personal houses. For houses with only 1 bidder, well, 50% chance you roll a 0 and it bugs.

Hopefully SE will address this sooner rather than later. Don't reclaim your gil yet, sit tight and wait. It sucks, but it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by Cerusia

If they do roll back, please only roll back for the houses that haven't been claimed in the result period ( 4 days from now )
Would suck for people that won to have their results rolled back and the house taken away because there was a winner.

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And on the other hand, those who did lose have 100% valid concerns that the only reason they did lose was due to a flaw in the drawings. It should all be rolled back.

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

I'm sure what happened is they programmed in a 0 for plots no one bid on. Most likely when the patch went live, code got messy and suddenly there's a chance you can get 0 as a result. When that happens it bugs out, and says no one participated (as it is programmed to do in the event no one did). It's more common on FC houses because there are fewer bidders than personal houses. For houses with only 1 bidder, well, 50% chance you roll a 0 and it bugs.

Hopefully SE will address this sooner rather than later. Don't reclaim your gil yet, sit tight and wait. It sucks, but it is what it is.

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It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

They can't rollback. How will they do that? People have already moved into their Ishgard plots. They've already spent gil buying stuff for the new plot, purchasing the permit, etc etc. If they were going to do a rollback, they'd have to kill the server at 11:01am EST and keep it down until they fix it.

That's not going to happen. Whomever won and already moved in, will just keep it. The bugged plots will just go up again with the "bug" hopefully fixed.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

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I'm not willing to subscribe to conspiracy theories, I'll assume it was just a bug for now. I would like to think SE wouldn't dare do this sort of thing knowing how disgruntled players are about housing atm.

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Originally Posted by Sergster1

And on the other hand, those who did lose have 100% valid concerns that the only reason they did lose was due to a flaw in the drawings. It should all be rolled back.

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I disagree. Why should you have your house rolled back and pray for RNG to bless you again when you have already won? It's 100 % understandable for houses that got absolutely no winners, that sucks a lot and I'm all for rolling back the lottery and re-drawing it ( without allowing new entries btw to not mess up original chances! ) But the houses that have been claimed should not be taken away from the winners again imo. That's just going to make people furious too.

yep the same happened to me was the only entry and still lost to 0

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Originally Posted by Nepentha

I'm not willing to subscribe to conspiracy theories, I'll assume it was just a bug for now. I would like to think SE wouldn't dare do this sort of thing knowing how disgruntled players are about housing atm.

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Considering how borked the housing in this game has always been, I don’t consider them actually making the no winners a possibility a conspiracy theory. You have way more faith in SE than I do.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

It makes sense for them to code in a failsafe of sorts for plots with no bidders. However, I’m fairly certain that you can design code to “ignore ‘0’ if x condition is met”, which, in this case would be “ignore ‘0’ if plot has active bids”. The more I think on this, the more I’m starting to believe that this 0 is not a bug and was 100% intentional.

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From the Housing Lottery notes: "One winning entry will be randomly selected from the pool of applicants, and the player who submitted that entry will gain the ability to finalize their purchase of the plot."

That tells me that there will and should be a winner, not a possibility that no one would get it.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...796b3f56abbd28

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Originally Posted by Cerusia

I disagree. Why should you have your house rolled back and pray for RNG to bless you again when you have already won? It's 100 % understandable for houses that got absolutely no winners, that sucks a lot and I'm all for rolling back the lottery and re-drawing it ( without allowing new entries btw to not mess up original chances! ) But the houses that have been claimed should not be taken away from the winners again imo. That's just going to make people furious too.

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The situation already is making people furious. But one side has a valid complaint of I only lost due to a flaw in the code. If you won it sucks but there's a reasonable chance that all other losers lost *unfairly* compared to you.