Dalamud in 1.22b

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

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http://www.thefamouspeople.com/profi...carl-sagan.jpg + http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...awking-008.jpg = http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/c...e.png?gewueyds

It is a large mechanism created by the Allagan Empire, says it in all the GC story lines. You can even tell that it is man made now after 1.22 when you look in the sky. Nael Van Darnus has been trying to pull it down but I'm unsure if he has succeeded or it is coming down on its own because he's been "feeding" it aether. The latter would be interesting; say it comes down, destroys the empire and becomes our new enemy. But alas we must all wait till that day comes, luckily that day isn't to far off.

In that 1.22 concept art, the one with Behemoth you can kind of see something in the background that looks a lot like Dalamud, someone else pointed this out.

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

Do you think Nael Van Darnus has this song stuck in his head?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU&ob=av2e

on his way to work this must have been the last song he heard on the radio

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I accept that and raise you this sir!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53UYNX0-fw

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

Actually if any planet were to lose a moon that was previously in orbit around it, there would be more than just tidal changes. I am not sure also how you can say that a gravitational pull does not exist but then mention how it will affect the tides. The gravitational pull is what creates the tides. Water is on the planet...therefore, moons do affect planets.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Dalamud is obviously very small, so small, in fact, that it would have no gravitational effect on the planet by falling
Hell, even if the BIG moon fell, the only gravitational effect would be on the water

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Yes... the BIG moon would have an affect, the small artificial moon would likely not have any effect

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Originally Posted by ChickNorris

Wait! There is more! If we lose our moon by it not existing or falling out of orbit, the Earth's rotation would be affected and speed up. It is the dynamic of distance, pull, momentum that causes us to rotate at the speed we do. We would end up with only the Sun's pull which would cause our day to be 1/2 to 2/3 shorter. The faster rotation would mean great changes for everyone...think of the surface winds, the 8-12 hour days, so many other things affected by this. In the game it translates to what was mentioned...the sea, the crops, the monsters, etc.l

Your use of barycentre is wrong. A barycentre is the center of mass, not the center of a planet. A center of mass is established like the moon(s) rotation and the planet in balance with each other. Our Earth does not sit and spin. It rotates and orbits along a fixed line that is in balance with the bodies around it, that are also doing the same thing. That spot, that center which the earth and its bodies orbit in balance is your barycentre...your center of gravity/center of mass.

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My use of barycenter was perfect. If the larger moon fell, It's pull on the planet, and the planet's pull on it would be removed, and the "planet" would no longer orbit the barycenter.By saying that

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the planet would no longer orbit the barycenter

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I can't possibly be saying that the barycenter is the center of the planet, Because I said the planet would no longer orbit it. You can't orbit yourself, therefore, nothing about what I said implied that the barycenter was the center of the planet's mass
Now what you inferred from my post... well... that's on you

So now that we have come to the conclusion that I am not wrong, only your interpretation of what I said is wrong.
I further maintain that if Dalamud is so small that

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there has been no change in the day/night cycle or the planet's rotation

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(Awww, look, I DID mention that removing a moon would cause changes in the earths rotation. I'm just spot on today. catch up Chick, come on), then it's size must also be so small that it wouldn't cause any gravitational anomolies

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Originally Posted by Mushy

as close as it is now the earth would already be feeling the gravitational effects, BUT ITS JUST A GAME i remind myself

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depends how big it is

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

depends how big it is

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It can't be that big or else ALL of Eorzea would be destoryed by it. By "destroyed" I mean totally wiped out, not terraformed or altered but destroyed, no life remaining in the region.

My best guess is its about the size of Ul'dah(the whole city not just what we can explore) MAYBE abit bigger. the thing is it was built for a purpose and that purpose may be the reason its drawing the aether from Eorzea as it aproaches.

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

It can't be that big or else ALL of Eorzea would be destoryed by it. By "destroyed" I mean totally wiped out, not terraformed or altered but destroyed, no life remaining in the region.

My best guess is its about the size of Ul'dah(the whole city not just what we can explore) MAYBE abit bigger. the thing is it was built for a purpose and that purpose may be the reason its drawing the aether from Eorzea as it aproaches.

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I think that's a good guess... It's small enough that the empire feels like if it was dropped on Eorzea then they wouldn't feel any adverse effects way up there in the Northeast

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I think that's a good guess... It's small enough that the empire feels like if it was dropped on Eorzea then they wouldn't feel any adverse effects way up there in the Northeast

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Yep and big enough to cause enough damage to the surrounding areas. (bye bye shroud)

Hell, the damage might be caused by it's Aether draining being dispersed in one huge pulse after crashing down causing weird geological abnormalities like the floating islands in the 2.0 concept and the big lava looking spike thingy.

/speculation

judging by the floating crystal, i wonder if it doesnt crash/land at all and maybe gets very close and hovers like in district 9. Maybe later we will figure out a way to go up there.