Fix Housing Megathread

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

tldr: punish your players for you playing your game.

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If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

What punishment do you refer to?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

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I agree and those people should start using their houses or let them go, but at the same time I don't think end of the day neither you, me or SE can decide what i should do with my house.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

What punishment do you refer to?

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Your own list. Point 1 and 2 specifically.

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1. Remove Grandfathering, that exist on most servers if not all, some people got more than one house on their single account.

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These people never broke any rules. Why take away the houses if people got a house extra when it will not fix anything in the end of the day.

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2. Add upkeep as in paying rent or tax for the plot, don't make it cheap.

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So, not only did I need to pay 5/20/50m or how much small/medium/large goes for nowadays, now I need to pay a rent, aside of paying a sub fee for the game?

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

What punishment do you refer to?

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Or people may not be able to decorate their house right away. I’m pretty sure that in the unlikely scenario I purchase a house, it will stand empty until I save up enough to even be able to furnish it and decorate it. Just because that part is super expensive as well.

You are entitled to your opinions but your arguments aren’t very convincing to me. You seem to be neglecting the fact players should be able to play at their own pace without having to grind away to always have enough money at the end of the month to pay ‘rent’. I for sure do not play often enough anymore to consistently make enough gil. I also wouldn’t want the game to have such obligations just for me to keep the items I collected or already purchased.

Now you might argue that housing is a luxury item that not everyone should own, but well, I’ll disagree on that too.

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Originally Posted by Jillian

Items available in the FFXI online store are a luxary item. Housing is part of the base game and should be available to everybody (especially with how heavily SE advertises it every expansion).

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So you’re owed ultimate weaps and savage clears too just since you bought the game?

WORK FOR IT, do not complain you don’t have it. It’s a luxury item with scarcity. You’re gonna have to work instead of complaining to get what you want. Life

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

2. Add upkeep as in paying rent or tax for the plot, don't make it cheap.

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People need to stop suggesting this idiotic idea. It does little more than punish people.

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Originally Posted by Caitsithhh

So you’re owed ultimate weaps and savage clears too just since you bought the game?

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That's a pretty poor arguement. No one said they owed anything but I kinda agree with how strong they advertise housing as a gaming feature, the items around housing should be available through the game. Same goes for emotes and stuff like that but that a different discussion for a different place.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

there is ALOT of never used houses

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This is what the auto-demolish system is for. If those people are keeping their houses beyond 45 days, then they ARE using them. You dont get to decide how someone else uses their stuff.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

I kinda agree with how strong they advertise housing as a gaming feature, the items around housing should be available through the game.

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Apartments ARE housing. And without logging onto your server, i can guarantee that there are some available right this second for you to buy. No server is even close to out of apartments. Could they be better? Absolutely. But they are available and easily obtained.

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Apartments ARE housing. And without logging onto your server, i can guarantee that there are some available right this second for you to buy. No server is even close to out of apartments. Could they be better? Absolutely. But they are available and easily obtained.

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Did I say they aren't? Also, apartments is not even worth it imo if you want do any proper gardening or use the outdoor furniture the seasonal events throws at you. So yes, they need a big overhaul with upgradability/scalable and have a ourdoor component.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

People need to stop suggesting this idiotic idea. It does little more than punish people.

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So does the ward system by not allowing every player to have a house. After all, they too are paying a monthly sub fee. Why are you and I allowed houses for paying that sub fee but others aren't? They are effectively being punished for something outside of their control.

A recurring gil fee does not have to be prohibitively expensive, just enough to deter people from holding houses they aren't actively using. Actively playing the game would cover the fee while leaving the player with plenty of more gil for buying other items.