Men's Fashion for women in game

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Makes sense to me. I still want the male gender type shirt/vest from Valentione's on my fem characters way more than I wanted the short dress we got.

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SAME. That vest was the best (...), I also really want the High House Justaucorps and generally more "dapper" outfits in general. Viera carry them SO well <3

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Makes sense to me. I still want the male gender type shirt/vest from Valentione's on my fem characters way more than I wanted the short dress we got.

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I feel like the dress would have been a lot nicer with a blouse under it to match the male shirt-and-vest.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

SAME. That vest was the best (...), I also really want the High House Justaucorps and generally more "dapper" outfits in general. Viera carry them SO well <3

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The justaucorps seems like an oversight - we should have got it at the same time that male characters got the bustle. If we don't get it with the next lot of releases I'm filing it as a bug report.

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Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Makes sense to me. I still want the male gender type shirt/vest from Valentione's on my fem characters way more than I wanted the short dress we got.

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I was honestly kind of hoping with all the stuff being opened up to the male characters that this would have been a thing, especially after the last school outfit on the mogstation. Think my viera would have rocked it as well... not that I could have used the hat, but the darn vest...sigh no Riddler cosplay still for me hahah.

Gender locking is outdated, let people wear what they like, the more options the better

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Originally Posted by Ralph2449

Gender locking is outdated, let people wear what they like, the more options the better

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At a practical level they still need to adjust all the models so they exist. It's not like real life where the clothes exist independently of the person and the only thing physically stopping them is whether it fits.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

At a practical level they still need to adjust all the models so they exist. It's not like real life where the clothes exist independently of the person and the only thing physically stopping them is whether it fits.

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True which is why I said gender locking design is outdated, if it was never implemented they would never have to now go through the extra work of making them fit other genders, instead they would from the start design each set for both before releasing them no matter how silly some might have looked.

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Originally Posted by Ralph2449

True which is why I said gender locking design is outdated, if it was never implemented they would never have to now go through the extra work of making them fit other genders, instead they would from the start design each set for both before releasing them no matter how silly some might have looked.

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Maybe I am not understanding you.

It's always needed 2 models (by x races) to be made for the clothing. Made 7 years ago, or made today, it's the same number of artist hours to model the boobies into the female clothing asset and texture it (or remove the boobies for a male version).

I don't see how it really changes anything. If the artist spent 100 hours back in 2013 to make both models, or 70 hours in 2013 to make a single gender model and 30 hours in 2021 to add the other gender. It's still 100 hours of artist time.

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Originally Posted by Ralph2449

Gender locking is outdated, let people wear what they like, the more options the better

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Without gender locking we’ll just continue to keep getting female catered/androgynous sets. Look at the 2b set for example. Clearly a female set and we got no male equivalent.

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Originally Posted by Awha

The real outcry is the lack of maid outfit for males. I need to create my lala trap maid cafe. It has been a long time goal of mine and my friends. We have done it the wedding dress, school girl outfit and bunny outfit. With the maid outfit we can reach our final form!

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Luring those unsuspecting hetero boys to their utter demise? xD

I'd be all for less (or even no) genderlocked gear as long as from then on gear isn't designed unisex but still with two genders in mind. I know it's more work.
But what's the point in lifting genderlock if it means all we'll get from then on is unisex gear that lacks all feminine or masculine flavour? The reason people are against genderlock is precisely because they'd enjoy some "opposite" flavour on their char.
If we can only chose between no genderlock but mostly unisex outfits with no distinct flavour and genderlock but destinclty female/ male outfits, I'd prefer the latter. It already bugs me enough that almost every recent hairstyle is just another variation of "unisex short". At least more mid-lenghts hair would be nice.