Cataclysm weapons: SEVEN WEEKS!?

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It could be worse,

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Things could always be worse. It doesn't mean what's there is great, or that it can't be improved upon.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Things could always be worse. It doesn't mean what's there is great, or that it can't be improved upon.

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it takes 3 weeks to get enough tomes to buy the weapon to start with. Most people buy tome pieces early on, meaning it will take them even longer anyway. You can get them from raiding week one, and it still takes 3 weeks to buy because of tomes. There is nothing wrong with having a delay on the weapon, especially when ruby ex exists and has no lockout. Its only 5 ilvls behind.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

I hope you're joking, i really do.

Hardcore raiders CAN get almost full ilvl 500, in the first week if needed, and one month in atleast one of the dps from any hardcore group WILL be full ilvl 500.

And no...It's not for money. If the game allowed you to get ilvl 500 week 1 without effort due to a lack of a tomestone cap or whatever...Then everyone would just play on patch week, get full ilvl 500, and then not play for 3 months, by your logic. Which do you prefer? Playing a little every week, and actually PLAYING the game? Or playing like a maniac week 1, then never launching the game again for the following 3 months before the next patch. Do you play soley to get gear? Do you unsub for 1-2 months once you're at ilvl cap and say "welp, that's me 100%ing the game! Surely i can't get any more social interaction or enjoyment from this more than i already do through all those expert roulettes i did!"
Nobody is forcing you to play the game - If that's how you really feel, then why are you paying the sub? Why are you playing?

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There's so much wrong with what you wrote, that rather than proving you wrong I'm just going to stick to answering your last questions.

No, I don't want to play like a maniac on week 1. At least not because of gear. What I find annoying is that I want to play the game... except I can't, because people won't want me in their party because they won't get any or as many rewards. THIS is what I'm against. It's exactly BECAUSE I don't play just for the gear, that I hate the system currently in place. When I brought up the hardcore players, I wasn't talking about myself. And for the record, I don't unsub or quit after I'm fully geared. It's like you completely missed the point of my post.

Its supposed to be something you work towards. Its a deliberate system to keep you subscribed.

Besides, it's the strongest weapon you can get right now aside from the Eden weapon, so it's natural that they'd draw out the process of getting it.

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Originally Posted by Stepjam

Its supposed to be something you work towards. Its a deliberate system to keep you subscribed.

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Waiting for the weekly reset to run E8 again isn't work.

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Originally Posted by Brill_

Waiting for the weekly reset to run E8 again isn't work.

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Neither is ruby ex. That fight practically gives weapons away.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Neither is ruby ex. That fight practically gives weapons away.

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An opinion that can only come from someone who has never pugged an EX.

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

An opinion that can only come from someone who has never pugged an EX.

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Ive pugged ruby ex. Fight is easy, just use your eyes and most mechanics sort themselves out if you can run out of bad

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Well, I don't agree there. An item that has nearly a whole third of its shelf life consumed by the time it takes to acquire a single one of them (because there's no way people play multiple roles/classes in this game, by the way) is a ridiculous practice.

These arguments always sucked, BTW.

Raider or not, everyone still wants to get more powerful in an RPG. How often have you chased after ultimate weapons/equipment in games where you absolutely didn't need them to be able to win?

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Usually those ultimate weapons/ equipment came from either a large time investment or beating a superboss, so I'm not sure what kind of point you're making here.

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Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

Ive pugged ruby ex. Fight is easy, just use your eyes and most mechanics sort themselves out if you can run out of bad

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So did I. Currently 8/10 PUG's for Ruby Ex fail horrible due to people messing up the easiest mechanics. Farming Ruby is more annoying then farming Hades ever was ...