DRK redesign details explained

So much for DRK being the poster boy of Shadowbringers, GNB is basically a better DRK for damage mitigation and they have better skills overall. Square doesn't seem to know how to balance jobs and instead decides to just make other tanks have better versions of existing skills. Delirium is not a fun ability and having to spam Bloodspiller is not gonna be fun, its just a , "Let me pretend to be a weaker WAR." ability. I'd honestly prefer SB DRK to ShB DRK. We also lost our dungeon heal ability with Abyssal Drain, we could spam it with Dark Arts and stay topped off with the help of a Regan and The Blackest Night.

All in all DRK seems to be underwhelming and still the worst tank, guess I'm switching over to GNB since they are basically better in everyway to a DRK.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

YYes but you're forgetting that Gun breaker is getting a skill that is almost identical to Dark Missionary - Other than its a flat 15% damage reduction to ALL damage and not just magical, all on the same cooldown and affect radius. Plus, Gun breaker has heals rolled in to their based combo with the ability to heal others. Its stupid that gun breaker gets a skill so much stronger than DRK especially after they said they want to make it so that all tanks can be used in an OT or MT role without much debate.
Plus, we don't really know how WARs shake it off with be affected in this expansion, considering some of the defensive skills have been changed.

Dark missionary needs to be changed to a TBN-like shield imo - Not only would it make it unique and make use of the new shield UI on health bars, but it would also be more versatile.

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Very true! I didn't see Gun skills, the Heart of Stone is extremely OP over the other tanks abilities.

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Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere

Even at that, it's a miniature (or alternatively lesser) Fell Cleave, and new new Delirium is, again, akin to a WAR skill but inferior.
What is it with SE not having any kind of mean to make DRK stand out amongst its peers? (rhetorical, and I'm over reacting for now. But come on, since 4.2 DRK has always lagged behind its peers, and 5.0 seems to continue that trend)

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I am trying to be optimistic since we was left behind in 4.X.

We only will se the true potencial when the XP hits and see for ourselves. And yes, I am very worried to be left behind again. =(

In addition, here are the supposed ability maps for the different tanks.

DRK - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...htTraitmap.png

WAR - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...orTraitmap.png

PLD - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...inTraitmap.png

GNB - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...019/05/GNB.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...5/GNBtrait.png

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

In addition, here are the supposed ability maps for the different tanks.

DRK - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...htTraitmap.png

WAR - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...orTraitmap.png

PLD - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...Abilitymap.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...inTraitmap.png

GNB - https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...019/05/GNB.png
https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...5/GNBtrait.png

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idk why the GNB one miss heart of light.

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Originally Posted by shao32

idk why the GNB one miss heart of light.

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Take what is shown in those with a grain of salt since I too noticed apparent errors in what was being displayed, such as the missing ability you pointed out as well as potentially incorrect info on the ability tooltips like WARs IB description still referencing Defiance and Deliverance.

Just use them as well as other sources such as the previously posted videos to paste together an idea of what the jobs will be on 5.0 release.

I feel like Power Slash should have stayed, they could have had it combo from Syphon Strike and refresh the Darkside timer or some other effect.

I'm quite baffled at the moment, I will still be playing DRK as my main but being quite bad in theory craft I have numerous point that I really don't understand such as :

-ok dark arts became a timed ability like ninja huiton (not a problem for me) and it's useful for doing....what?
-abyssal drain change is rather incomprehensible, which ability should take its place?
-doesn't quietus at the moment give you an mp regen if used with dark arts? For what I saw now is only pure damage

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Originally Posted by Giubba

I'm quite baffled at the moment, I will still be playing DRK as my main but being quite bad in theory craft I have numerous point that I really don't understand such as :

-ok dark arts became a timed ability like ninja huiton (not a problem for me) and it's useful for doing....what?
-abyssal drain change is rather incomprehensible, which ability should take its place?
-doesn't quietus at the moment give you an mp regen if used with dark arts? For what I saw now is only pure damage

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New Dark Arts is basically your reward for good TBN usage, giving you a free Flood/Edge to keep Darkside up.
Unleash > Stalwart Soul combo. Abyssal Drain will simply be used when it can. Not going to get as much selfhealing this time around though.
Quietus right now gives MP by default, Dark Arts just raises its damage. Shadowbringers Quietus just does damage, unless boosted by Delirium at which point we'll get MP again.

Drk looks good to me its more about resource management which is more punishing here it looks like vs what we have now that is DA spam, I only have a few issues with Drks kit:

-Dark Missionary only being magical damage to me is quite an oversight where GNB gets 15% for all damage
-Dark Mind nerf was unwarranted (20% down from 30%)
-Living Dead wasn't changed
-Drk UI looks a little wonky/intrusive

Other than that I'm really looking forward to Drk its gimmick looks fun, management looks fun, I'm waiting to get my hands on it until I really make a judgement call but I'll still level Drk to 70 first. GNB is a really close second for myself but Drk pulls ahead just with all these changes it looks great to me at least, as someone who really disliked SB Drk this makes me wanna play it more, I love TBN, I love the new Delirium, pretty excited.

Back in HW DRK was so much fun i could not believe they let me play this job like all the time. It felt like something you would only be allowed to use for a few hours a week, as a reward for being a good boy.

But now?

Do we even have any cooldowns left? Conva gone, Anticipation gone, Dark Passengers AoE blind gone, Abyssal Drain spam gone... how am i supposed to mitigate those dungeon pulls? Dark Mind is useless for that, so all what is left is Rampart, Shadow Wall and TBN... great...

And the aoe combo with Unleashed looks clunky and unfun as hell. Why can everyone and their mother swing their weapons around for aoe, except the guy with the gigantic sword? Okay, there is Quietus, but meh...

At least Abyssal Drain spam was fun, because of the annoying sound. But oh well...


Gunbreaker looks so much better...