Main Scenario Roulette streamlining suggestion

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Originally Posted by Tlachtga

They should honestly remove the roulette and either make it into solo instances, or somehow make it so it can only be accessed by Mentors, or give it a higher chance of popping in Mentor Roulette (like Labyrinth does in Alliance Raid Roulette.

Apparently people LOVE helping newbies so much. Why not implement it so that only people who care about helping newbies can do the roulette?

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Fairly certain that Labyrinth pops so much in Alliance Raid roulette because you only need one raid to unlock the roulette, and LotA is the first 24-man you can come across in the game (last I checked—you could need two, but there again, second most common in Alliance Roulette is Syrcus Tower; and both make for easy roulettes for even easier EXP rewards)? I don’t think LotA popping more is due to a deliberate algorithm to make it pop more—it’s simply the one everyone has unlocked; and for those who won’t unlock more, your options are already extremely limited when you queue up for the roulette.

Sort of confused if people do not like the cutscene why queue for the roulette in the first place, outside the first time requirement.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Fairly certain that Labyrinth pops so much in Alliance Raid roulette because you only need one raid to unlock the roulette, and LotA is the first 24-man you can come across in the game (last I checked—you could need two, but there again, second most common in Alliance Roulette is Syrcus Tower; and both make for easy roulettes for even easier EXP rewards)? I don’t think LotA popping more is due to a deliberate algorithm to make it pop more—it’s simply the one everyone has unlocked; and for those who won’t unlock more, your options are already extremely limited when you queue up for the roulette.

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Exactly that. You can't roulette until you have at least two possibilities (eg. leveling roulette unlocks at Lv16 when you're eligible for both Sastasha and Tam-Tara) so everyone has to queue directly for Labyrinth when they first unlock it, then either directly queue for Syrcus Tower OR run the roulette for a 50% chance of either of those raids. Assuming they haven't already unlocked higher raids, anyway.

I'm at that point on an alt character. Did Labyrinth, unlocked Syrcus, ran the roulette instead of direct queuing, got Labyrinth for the second time in an hour. (And it very rudely dropped none of the Fuma gear for my ninja, except the eyepatch on both runs.)

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Originally Posted by Nihility

they made it worth almost a full level to entice people without taking into consideration that people motivated by greed aren't the best teammates.

They're putting in all the npc helper stuff now. Just make them solo instances and remove that roulette completely imo.
They're so braindead simple that even just cid, a few scions, and whatever nameless soldiers are story appropriate for that part of the story would be plenty doable

replace it with a rival wings roulette to make up the potential exp/tome loss. That friggain place is in desperate need of something to lure people in anyways

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Trusts are only available in Shadowbringers, though. No word on if they'll be retroactively made available for older content.

Watch netflix on another monitor, enjoy your free exp as long as u tab in once in a while to fight hte bosses
they're not gonna let you skip the cutscenes

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Originally Posted by Avatre

Or, and this is a novel idea,you just don't queue for the ONLY roulette outside Mentor that has those two dungeons..and is ONLY those two dungeons...you don't like it? Don't queue for it. Simple as that.

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I haven't queued for MSQ roulette since 4.0 lol

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Think about that a bit more. An optional roulette that people only sign up to if they're willing to spend their time helping newbies through those dungeons? It's exactly what we already have. That is the sole purpose of MSQ Roulette and its tempting rewards (designed to compensate you for your time).

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Hmm, my post wasn't serious; I really do think they should be reworked into solo instances.

I was just poking fun at the laughable state of Mentors in this game, and MSQ roulette in general; people need to be bribed to help out.

People have stated in the past they run the roulette for the satisfaction of helping out new players, but also bring up the rewards. I have my doubts that the helping is the primary motivation. So I just proposed essentially removing the rewards from MSQ and placing it in the roulette of people who are supposed to care about helping new players primarily.

We all know how badly it'd turn out.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Fairly certain that Labyrinth pops so much in Alliance Raid roulette because you only need one raid to unlock the roulette, and LotA is the first 24-man you can come across in the game (last I checked—you could need two, but there again, second most common in Alliance Roulette is Syrcus Tower; and both make for easy roulettes for even easier EXP rewards)? I don’t think LotA popping more is due to a deliberate algorithm to make it pop more—it’s simply the one everyone has unlocked; and for those who won’t unlock more, your options are already extremely limited when you queue up for the roulette.

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I figured the reason I used to get that horrible unfun instance almost all the time is that you have to run Labyrinth to get Syrcus Tower unlocked to unlock the Alliance Raid roulette itself, so there's more people queuing for it in general.

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Originally Posted by Tlachtga

I figured the reason I used to get that horrible unfun instance almost all the time is that you have to run Labyrinth to get Syrcus Tower unlocked to unlock the Alliance Raid roulette itself, so there's more people queuing for it in general.

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Nah, I think it’s more because everyone has it (and Sycrus Tower) unlocked to access the Roulette. And that’s probably the easiest way to get the most amount of EXP for leveling other jobs—the only Roulette that gives more EXP than Alliance Roulette is MSQ Roulette. I leveled all three of my tanks exclusively with Alliance Roulette because I’m really nervous about tanking dungeons—the EXP you get from it is astounding.

How about we just remove MSQ roulette, and make those two instances solo instances. There, problem solved.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

How about we just remove MSQ roulette, and make those two instances solo instances. There, problem solved.

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Are you going to do the work?

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Originally Posted by MistakeNot

Are you going to do the work?

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SE has stated they never wanted to make anything on the level of CM or Prae for MSQ again...so why not fix those problems and nobody complains about skipping cutscenes or the like ever again? I mean, NG+ IS coming up.