SE pls end X\FC# per account & remove GrndFathered multiple houses owned by 1 person

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Originally Posted by Kittypryde

Please enlighten me. How would you solve the issue of Balmung or the many other servers with 12-20k players? There will NEVER be enough supply. SE won't make it instanced. They've alrey said that. I'm curious how would you make ALL 20k Balmung players happy with their 1 personal and 1 FC houses? Besides magically making 40k plots appear. One FC and one personal per account still means that 90% of Balmung has nothing. Nobody can win..

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If you'll notice, I said nothing about Balmung, and nothing about making all the players happy. I said making more players happy. I don't care about Balmung and I never have.

Edit: I also am full aware that it's "allowed" under current rules, and that there are ways around it that are not technically circumventing the current rules. I'm just saying that I'm fine with the idea of them changing those rules.

Reasons for multiple homes;

FC ( I solo FC ) Can still be sold and bypass ownership and cooling period if done properly.

Homes can then be turned to FC homes and repeat cycles. Only draw back now is that SE will not allow any more multiple homes. Once people lose it they can't buy extras. Lame.

Eventually things will get smoother, people now a days fail to see the whole purpose of HONEST members making gil.

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Originally Posted by QueenSophie

Multiple house owners have put way too much time into the game, leveling characters, making gil, all with paid subscriptions, no different than any other player, if they retroactively did this, it would in fact be a PR nightmare, there are way more multiple house owners out there than people realize, and they would have to retroactively remove weapons, gear, levels, achievements, and so on just to make it fair acorss the board. Any rules they do in fact change in the future, won't involve any retoractive removal, just change things going forward, as one could point to 4.3. They will never take anything away in the game that was earned fairly within the rules......sorry....but this thread is a big fat dream.
OP says people are using harrassment and abuse as an "excuse" for owning multiple plots, how does that even make sense? They dont have a clue.
#multiplehouseownersunite

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ALmost got all classes on same character to max, what makes that different from having 8 alts doign the same just with 1-2 classes? it does not take years to level up up 8 alts, could probably be ready in a day per 1 alt, and if paying for it could have lvl60 same day all or something, please stop referering to stuff that is not a limited resource as well, that is just a request... 10 houses is like 15million gil if all small houses, 150millions if all medium and 500millions if all large... I don't get what make the people so special about it as it is?

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

If you'll notice, I said nothing about Balmung, and nothing about making all the players happy. I said making more players happy. I don't care about Balmung and I never have.

Edit: I also am full aware that it's "allowed" under current rules, and that there are ways around it that are not technically circumventing the current rules. I'm just saying that I'm fine with the idea of them changing those rules.

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Well, you might not care about Balmung, but Mateus, behemoth, Excalibur, and a few others aren't far behind. How would you satiate the hungry players? Besides instanced housing (because SE refuses). I'm honestly asking. Cause I have raked my brain and can't think of a way to server them all. Until they are all happy with two houses (1 FC and 1 personal), there will be complaining.

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Originally Posted by Kittypryde

Well, you might not care about Balmung, but Mateus, behemoth, Excalibur, and a few others aren't far behind. How would you satiate the hungry players? Besides instanced housing (because SE refuses). I'm honestly asking. Cause I have raked my brain and can't think of a way to server them all. Until they are all happy with two houses (1 FC and 1 personal), there will be complaining.

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Multiple house owners refuse to give up their property is one of the reasons, 4 people can share a home, it is not SE's fault, the only fault they did was to grandfather people with multiple homes, maybe in a way hoping they would see the benefit for actually helping out and doing a difference by giving up some of the plots to others.. or just asking for the value plot costed.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Multiple house owners refuse to give up their property is one of the reasons, 4 people can share a home, it is not SE's fault, the only fault they did was to grandfather people with multiple homes, maybe in a way hoping they would see the benefit for actually helping out and doing a difference by giving up some of the plots to others.. or just asking for the value plot costed.

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You still aren't answering my question. Besides freeing up a hundred or two plots from multi plot owners, how would YOU handle the hungry players who want more. About 10k more houses?

Besides on Ultros. We STILL have over 140 empty plots rotting away. Even mist and lav beds houses near river/beach. I don't need to give up anything for the hungry buyers. There's fields and fields of housing open right now. O even saw a large house sitting for ten hrs last weekend. Make an alt and I'll show you. Some wards have 10 empty houses at lowest prices. If you are thirsty, come to Ultros to drink.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Multiple house owners refuse to give up their property is one of the reasons, 4 people can share a home, it is not SE's fault, the only fault they did was to grandfather people with multiple homes, maybe in a way hoping they would see the benefit for actually helping out and doing a difference by giving up some of the plots to others.. or just asking for the value plot costed.

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You do realize multiple home owners, ( honest ones ) used this as a solution for storage space as solo FC's. In the past I use to Flip FC's as a way to generate income on the side. Not because I don't want to get rid of it. It was productive for gardening, gathering supplies on expeditions, and even today do so as well. SE has limited the amount of houses that can be purchased and to be fair has even placed a Cool down on it to avoid camping plots. As of right now the only way around it is FC turn overs and is still a high risk on trade. Eventually it will balance out with demolishing, new areas, expansions, ect. Another thing I do is rent my FC out as well to people who don't have it while they find one. Win Win in my opinion. I mean why else would people want large estates rank 8 maxed outs?

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Originally Posted by Kittypryde

You still aren't answering my question. Besides freeing up a hundred or two plots from multi plot owners, how would YOU handle the hungry players who want more. About 10k more houses?

Besides on Ultros. We STILL have over 140 empty plots rotting away. Even mist and lav beds houses near river/beach. I don't need to give up anything for the hungry buyers. There's fields and fields of housing open right now. O even saw a large house sitting for ten hrs last weekend. Make an alt and I'll show you. Some wards have 10 empty houses at lowest prices. If you are thirsty, come to Ultros to drink.

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Answer this one, how many people that is not your alt's or other accounts do you have as tenants? am opposed to the issue as sooner or later servers will fill out, why not solve the problem now rather than later when it can get real fierce is all I am saying and been appealing to most of all, I don't need to answer your question as it is as I am only taking part in a debate and mostly been taking part in being opposed this stuff and answered or reacted to some of your ideas in the most polite way possible, though you probably see it as harrashment, which it is certainly not.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Answer this one, how many people that is not your alt's or other accounts do you have as tenants? am opposed to the issue as sooner or later servers will fill out, why not solve the problem now rather than later when it can get real fierce is all I am saying and been appealing to most of all, I don't need to answer your question as it is as I am only taking part in a debate and mostly been taking part in being opposed this stuff and answered or reacted to some of your ideas in the most polite way possible, though you probably see it as harrashment, which it is certainly not.

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Off the top of my head, I believe I have five friends total who are tenants. One doesn't log on but once every two months so he didn't want to own a house (believe me I tried to buy one for him). Another doesn't craft and so make stuff for her to move into her apt and I let her practice designing in my lav beds small. I have another friend who is taking a break from game until next summer so he wanted to be my tenant. All my other FC mates, and ls members , I've bought or helped them with their first apt or cottage. I've even helped out random strangers who were kind and friendly and given them 4m to buy a cottage. Last night in fact I gave 2m to a guy who wanted a shiro small for his small FC of six. He was nice and I wanted a neighbor. That plot had been sitting for days.

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Originally Posted by KuuroYuuki

just follow this rule: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/
"Players may only own one private and one free company estate per World on any given service account."

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Originally Posted by Kittypryde

I have read it. Believe it or not, I read and reread it and memorized it in the weeks before 4.2 cause I'm OCD like that . Did you read it? I don't think so.

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I love how everyone still fails to see that some the Temporary Changes to Purchasing Land listed haven't been effective for months.