Forum etiquette - double-posting vs separating ideas?

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Trust me, people post, just to be seen.

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If we're going by this logic, I suppose that also explains why you post? Since we're making generalizations here?

I post to answer questions or just to say something. Not out of some need for internet validation or feeling important. It may surprise you, but I don't care about "being seen". Considering I'm the very definition of an introvert, it's not something that is important me. I prefer the opposite; I don't like internet notoriety. So let us not generalize here.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

If we're going by this logic, I suppose that also explains why you post? Since we're making generalizations here?

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It's certainly why at least a dozen people on the English forum post who have large post counts centered on the general forum, because they don't add anything to the conversation, and are just waiting for that one person they don't like to post anything so they can jump in and add a sarcastic retort that that insults the person.

As I said, I've managed big boards before, and those who spend a great deal amount of time on the forum, just want to be seen.

If you think I'm calling you or anyone else out, please put a pin in your ego.

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Originally Posted by Miste

Trust you on what? You offer no factual evidence or statistics to back up these massive generalizations.

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There are studies on this, don't be ridiculous. Anonymity makes people act differently than they would in a physical setting, because anonymity lowers inhibition.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9ea...f0452c75e6.pdf
http://sro.sussex.ac.uk/59830/1/Accepted%20Version.pdf

I use snip quotes if I have to. Since I'm on mobile, I can't edit my posts; snipping ensures I can get my opinion out without having to worry (much) about character limit.

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Originally Posted by Wilford111

I use snip quotes if I have to. Since I'm on mobile, I can't edit my posts; snipping ensures I can get my opinion out without having to worry (much) about character limit.

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This forum, on mobile predates most actual mobile usability changes. In fact, when I once visited the site on my mobile phone, I thought I was on the wrong site due to the lack of any customization of the mobile theme.

It's still rude to -snip- a quoted post, and if you can't trim it from a mobile device, copy the entire quoted section to the phone's text editor, write the post there, post "mobile10char." or something as a place holder, edit everything in the text editor, stick the bold tags around the segment you're replying to, and then copy that back from the text editor.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

It's still rude to -snip- a quoted post

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I disagree. If it's rude to snip a post then it is also rude to not click on the blue button that takes you back to the post in question.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

It's certainly why at least a dozen people on the English forum post who have large post counts centered on the general forum, because they don't add anything to the conversation, and are just waiting for that one person they don't like to post anything so they can jump in and add a sarcastic retort that that insults the person.

As I said, I've managed big boards before, and those who spend a great deal amount of time on the forum, just want to be seen.

If you think I'm calling you or anyone else out, please put a pin in your ego.

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Honestly, I don’t care how many “big boards” you’ve managed. That doesn’t suddenly make you an expert on people or forum posters. It certainly doesn’t give you the right to generalize the lot of them. Personally, I post on forums because I’m bored, or because I have something to say/add to a conversation. When I’m not bored/don’t have anything to say or add, I’m typically not on them. Again, not out of some need to be validated by strangers on the internet.

And the irony of being told to put a pin on my ego.
You do realize by your generalizations you are including yourself in them, yes? If people with high post counts on the OF just “want to be seen”, well you have a fairly sizeable post count yourself, so what does that say about you? The logic applies to you as well. If you don’t like being included in the generalizations, best not to make them, my friend.

The entire point of my post wasn’t any sort ego stroke. It was to give you another perspective on why people frequent the forums (yes, even these westerns that you consider so confrontational), since you are so keen to exclude such things when you make these generalizations about people.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

There are studies on this, don't be ridiculous. Anonymity makes people act differently than they would in a physical setting, because anonymity lowers inhibition.

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/9ea...f0452c75e6.pdf
http://sro.sussex.ac.uk/59830/1/Accepted%20Version.pdf

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No one said that anonymity doesn’t lower inhibitions. They said that you aren’t entitled to call everyone on the western side of the world:

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Most "western" forums don't have these limits, because western people have an inflated ego, and see "dem's fightin' words" everywhere if everyone isn't praising them.

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Neither of the studies you linked say anything about how western individuals have massively inflated egos and look to argue and bicker with every poster they come across because they feel the need to argue. Thereby, they don’t prove your point.

What? Why is it rude the snip posts? This is the second time somebody said it. How is that rude? I do it because I'm responding directly to the person I snipped. This feels like an overly sensitive reaction to a minor thing.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

It certainly doesn’t give you the right to generalize the lot of them. Personally, I post on forums because I’m bored. When I’m not bored, I’m typically not on them. Again, not out of some need to be validated by strangers on the internet.

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Yet, somehow you personally took offense to a generalization that is very true for this forum, and all unmoderated/loosely moderated forums on the internet, because you felt that I was attacking you, when I was describing the behavior of people who add nothing to the conversation, because there is no moderator.

When there is low moderation, the amount of ****-posting goes up. Those are posts that add nothing to the thread, but exist entirely to inflate the users presence. That is just one thing people do, and it's very popular to do in Western and Eastern forums when the moderators are asleep, or absent. Prior to this concept, as I described before "forum games" exist where people post to the same thread, over and over with one-liners, it's entire purpose to inflate the user's post count, and visibility on the site by being the last poster to every forum game thread. This forum doesn't have this because it's against the terms of service to do it, and the posts-per-day limit lowers the rate at which the post inflation happens.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

What? Why is it rude the snip posts? This is the second time somebody said it. How is that rude? I do it because I'm responding directly to the person I snipped. This feels like an overly sensitive reaction to a minor thing.

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It's equal to saying "what you said meant nothing, thus you're an idiot"

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

If you think I'm calling you or anyone else out, please put a pin in your ego.

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I find this to be a bit ironic in that you think people telling you to stop making blanket statements against a generalized group of people just because you personally think that you're some kind of expert on the behavior of the western side of the world just from merely running a few online communities somehow are instead the people with an ego.

I mean, your own ego is pretty inflated right now about this subject as well.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Yet, somehow you personally took offense to a generalization that is very true for this forum, and all unmoderated/loosely moderated forums on the internet, because you felt that I was attacking you, when I was describing the behavior of people who add nothing to the conversation, because there is no moderator.

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I suppose I have to repeat myself: It was to give you a different perspective. Because you seem to negate such things when you start making blanket statements like “all westerners are jerks that like to have dick-measuring contests on online forums because they have to prove who is the biggest and the baddest”. It’s cute that you think you’ve offended me though. Please do quote where I said I was offended or felt personally attacked by your statement, though. I’ll admit that it irritated me because it shows massive ignorance (and arrogance) on your part. And I have very little patience for either. But I hardly felt “attacked” by you.



There are moderators for the NA forums; usually you see them post in the Technical Support section when people go there for assistance.

There are posts that are removed when reported, as well as users that are warned and banned for repeated reports. Mayhaps they aren’t as active as they are on JP forums; I wouldn’t know. I don’t frequent the JP forums. But moderation occurs when reports are submitted. If posters aren’t submitting reports, how are moderators—especially for a forum that is busy as this one can be sometimes—expected to moderate? Unless you expect them active read each and every thread every day. Such demands would probably be impossible.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

It's equal to saying "what you said meant nothing, thus you're an idiot"

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Wut.