The thing is you don't have a problem with it but I'm pretty sure others do.
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04-06-2018, 01:30 AMKai_Lee
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04-06-2018, 01:34 AMFayieBots can't even win a game of Frontlines. How are they supposed to get into the leaderboards? Do you mean win trading? :'DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur
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04-06-2018, 01:41 AMAviarsYou are so cute. Calling us snowflakes when you literally beg for rewards because you aren't good enough to get them. I personally think if you suggested using the top 100 voucher to choose 1 top 100 reward of your choice you would be somewhat reasonable (Even though I still think they should keep the system the way it is currently, time exclusive and exclusive to top 100). But you keep asking to make it extremely easy because it makes it attainable FOR YOU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur
Just accept the facts. It's obvious you don't want to insert the same amount of effort and skill involved to get top 100 rewards. At the end of the day top 100 rewards should only be accessible to top 100 players ;] -
04-06-2018, 01:45 AMFayieI wouldn't mind a system like this. I, personally, don't have the interest in the mounts or last couple of seasons gear design. I do, however, regret not putting in the time and effort for old Feast gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviars
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04-06-2018, 01:51 AMMantrus
A majority of end game content has exclusive rewards to promote its content in a unique way, so there's nothing wrong with PvP doing the same. PvP has a lot of flaws, but it will reward players who master it and put the effort in just the same as other PvE content no matter how unfun or toxic it's perceived to be.
If you don't like the content, then just don't do it. If you want the reward, then either you get out of your comfort zone and put the time and effort in or you don't want it enough. Why should we appeal to your specific desire for the reward when there is already a functioning way to get it? Relic/Anima tasks are far from the epitome of fun or good game design, yet no one says you should be able to get them from savage raids or PvP. If people can't get relic/Anima rewards as an example for doing other content, why should we extend that to PvP?
And I do agree with Ava that making previous top 100 rewards available again for the same achievement would be fine. Not being able to ever get a reward again is a problem I can understand, and as long as the skill and effort for the reward are reasonably maintained then I have no complaints.
As for how it's functional, I've already addressed all those concerns in the last thread you brought this up, Stormfur, so you can refer to that thread. As for the toxicity of PvP, yes it's not ideal, but PvP and toxicity come hand in hand in all games. SE decided that having PvP to fulfill that drive in players is worth the toxicity, no matter how they try to mitigate it. -
04-06-2018, 02:12 AMGallusPVP exclusive rewards should stay exclusive, and PVE exclusive rewards should stay exclusive too. With that said, ideally, what they should have done from the very beginning (or at the very least from now on) is promote PVP but not force ranked down peoples' throats like that. There isn't a single soul playing The Feast nonranked because there are zero rewards and there's no incentive. Let the ranked players have their titles, elo, ladders and an exclusive reward attained by a certain amount of victories every season. Let the players who do normal matches have the same reward with the same number of victories, but without titles, ladders and elo. Both queues are suddenly alive. Ranked players get to have their toxicity, their ignore mark spammers, their little threatening messages through alts while the others can just play PVP (and even enjoy it!) while working for a reward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mantrus
I enjoy PVP. I enjoy competing. I don't enjoy getting insulted, bashed, ignore mark spammed, threatened and boycotted. Withstanding the latter is required for ranked online gaming nowadays? Sadly it is, so count me out. -
04-06-2018, 03:39 AMStormfur
If they would make exclusive rewards account-wide and expand it to per server opposed to data center, it would make the leaderboard system a lot fairer and open up the pool to more competition. But as it is right now, it's more of a stagnant pool than a ladder.
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04-06-2018, 03:48 AMKai_Lee
That I can agree upon, why make it simply top 100 when it can be expanded upon to be top 150 or top 200 and that alone can solve a lot of issues with exclusive rewards players complaint about and the toxicity of the feast now that it allows more players to get the reward.
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04-06-2018, 04:03 AMStormfurThe system is broken. Surely you must see that. They could go a long way toward fixing it by making rewards go account-wide and adding in a rank decay system. I will be the first one to step up and say that currently, I don't have the time (nor the desire) to no-life Feast to the exclusion of everything else, like some cheeto-stained basement dweller. It is not a realistic expectation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviars
By that token, people like me don't even have a chance right out of the gate. Even when the reward was available, I tried for it (it was my first season in Feast) before extenuating circumstances which were vastly more important, took me away from the game for awhile. That's just life. I'm not sorry for making the choice that I did to put the game on hold because it. is. a. game.
And like I've said so many times before, I don't want to diminish the skill or effort of those who placed in the top 100 and did so fairly and ethically. I think that is AWESOME. And I've played with many of those people and they're truly that good. I'm working toward a goal of getting in the top 100. Maybe I'm not good enough yet, just as there are people who aren't good enough to clear Savage Kefka yet. I don't think those people should be given whatever it is that comes from that fight, just like I don't want everyone to be "given" a hellhound.
If they were to fix the ranking system and make old rewards available in the top 100 again, you're damn right I'd try for them! But as it stands right now, for many people, the odds are stacked against you right from the start. It has been what, 2 or 3 years? In 2-3 years I'll be able to kill Savage Kefka with my pinky finger. Things just become more attainable in-game over time. Why hold PVP to a higher standard? Give more of us something to aim for. What's wrong with that?
Hell, I'd be happy with a different version of the mount like the one that comes from Void Ark and is a different color than the PVP ranked ones. That way, you get your exclusive little thing, and I get a different one. We both win. Then, you guys can bash each other over the head all day in the arena and I will happily frolic in the flowers with my creature of the void. -
04-06-2018, 04:12 AMFayieThis is can 100% back. It would help negate the need for alts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur
Not this quite so much, if top 100 was server based then it would either be extremely awkward cross server competition wise and/or would limit queues back to server only. That would destroy PvP entirely, the community is too small as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormfur