Why is there no PvP mentor?

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

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If the game devs had that approach with everything they implement, half the features our game enjoys wouldn't have ever made it :b
I don't know how it is in ragnarok, but I've never seen a sprout being trolly or going out of their way to annoy someone. Plus, "don't do it because people are mean" has to be the worst reason I've ever seen not to implement a feature.

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Originally Posted by Odstarva

If the game devs had that approach with everything they implement, half the features our game enjoys wouldn't have ever made it :b
I don't know how it is in ragnarok, but I've never seen a sprout being trolly or going out of their way to annoy someone. Plus, "don't do it because people are mean" has to be the worst reason I've ever seen not to implement a feature.

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Your proposal is only going to make the problem worse, you are not proposing to implement a feature. The reason the game is easy as it is to appeal to that crowd to begin with. Just because you have not seen it yet, does not mean it has not happen, and thus you can't see your ideas making the situation worse.

Also why do you think there are penalties in the game to begin with? like not hitting the queue pop 3 times and locks you out? It was put in the game because of trolling.

SE will never allow a downvote system in the game for the same reason it is not on the forums.

If I haven't seen it when I started playing, since closed beta, I don't think I'll start seeing it now.
There is the rare exception, but it is what it is - the rare exception. The right-click report feature exists, and I'd consider that far more important (and potentially damaging) than losing a mentor title - and it's still there.

Not everyone is out to get you. Most players are like you and me in that we may be different and have different opinions, but we're all here to enjoy the game and have fun.
Now, if you were to argue that what a given person may consider worthy of a mentor commendation or not might differ from someone else's... that's a whole other subject itself.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

People com's are more based on popularity contest. Some do it based on role they are on, some based it on parsers, some do it for glams, some do it for talking in a fun way.. I really do not think people com based on being helpful often. More often then not, you are met with "you do not pay my sub"

People will abuse it, downvote people to troll someone, esp if someone was trying to be helpful, a person will most likely have the "you do not pay for my sub mentality"

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Being popular isn't same as being helpful but it sets the mark of being helpful to one person as being accountable for their advice by many. Think how many people said "Watch a video before you run this or that". This is no different. I've seen bad guides (especially crafting ones) and there's good guides. If someone suggesting running a parser or comms based on it during mentor roullette then there's something wrong with that content (= why would that content need a mentor and put in the roullette). Also I'm not suggesting a vote system, the comms should be reset weekly or every patch to make mentors as relevant as the contents.

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Originally Posted by uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu

Being popular isn't same as being helpful but it sets the mark of being helpful to one person as being accountable for their advice by many. Think how many people said "Watch a video before you run this or that". This is no different. I've seen bad guides (especially crafting ones) and there's good guides. If someone suggesting running a parser or comms based on it during mentor roullette then there's something wrong with that content (= why would that content need a mentor and put in the roullette). Also I'm not suggesting a vote system, the comms should be reset weekly or every patch to make mentors as relevant as the contents.

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trying to benchmark off coms is useless. People rarely com targeting who went above and beyond to make the run smooth or best performing. Most seem to simply leave without using the com system anyway. It doesn't give a benchmark for anything

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Originally Posted by Odstarva

Plus, "don't do it because people are mean" has to be the worst reason I've ever seen not to implement a feature.

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Inversely, "ban chat in the Feast because (SOME) players are toxic!" is a terrible reason to make such a change, especially when players being nasty toward each other isn't exclusive to PvP. . .

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Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Inversely, "ban chat in the Feast because (SOME) players are toxic!" is a terrible reason to make such a change, especially when players being nasty toward each other isn't exclusive to PvP. . .

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I agree :o

I think mentor in general need work,
Only "hard" think getting 300 commendation but you can easily past by just lv classes.
Legit get Tank to 60 then SCH or SMN your done.
Then farm 1000 Ifrit. Done.
How to lv to 60?
PotD to lv21 then Squad/PotD to Lv50 then Dungeon/PotD to Lv60.

Yeah I kind of agree how it makes no sense to unlock mentor status without ever having done PvP, and then calling yourself a PvP mentor. lol

I don't want murderers teaching today's youth--PvE or PvP. Ban them all.