Why is there no PvP mentor?

[Phantom325]

I know you can set yourself as a PvP mentor, but why is there no way to achieve the Mentor status through PvP? For the Disciple of War/Magic mentor, you need to run Ifrit normal 1,000 times and get 300 player commendations along the way, and Disciple of Hand/Land you need to just follow a guide on leveling the class to 60 then get 300 collectables.

My point is neither of those really require that much socialization / helpfulness, so I don't understand why acquiring Mentorship through PvP isn't an option either.

[Odstarva]

So, what you're really trying to say is "I want to be a Mentor without getting either of my gatherers to 60, or without getting a tank, a healer and a dps to 60".

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

No, they're saying that they want to attain mentorship through PvP, which might actually lend some credibility behind the "PvP Mentor" status icon that currently exists. Which is the exact opposite of what you suggested.

[PArcher]

Lock it behind Top 100 in Feast then. Show that you really want this mentorship.

Too easy to just bot X number of games in Frontlines or Rival Wings.

[Phantom325]

So, what you're really trying to say is "I want to be a Mentor without getting either of my gatherers to 60, or without getting a tank, a healer and a dps to 60".

I have a 70 RDM, 61 BRD, and 60 DRG. My next class to 60 will probably be a DRK, which already starts at 30, and is literally just a POTD grindfest. That's not hard. Or, alternatively, I just buy a boost to 60. Moving onto the other requirements, I've timed it, on my RDM including queueing/loading screens, I average 2 Ifrit clears per minute, meaning I could clear him 120 times in an hour. Really the only "hard" part about that is the 300 commendations.

Disciple of Land/Hand is even easier, with me just fishing mindlessly until 60 and buying what I need for leves off the MB for crafting to 60.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Getting top 100 in the Feast isn't much of a metric of skill either, especially with wintraders running rampant, and some people just putting in the time and repeated tries to get up there. Not every skilled player makes top 100.

[Phantom325]

My point is that neither of those are hard; they are just time consuming. But, by the time you have met the requirements, it's likely that you know a fair amount about the game. Why can't PvP be the same way? Make the requirements something like "earn X (100-300?) commendations through PvP, win X matches, and earn all 3 Garo mounts. I threw the Garo mounts one in there because you have to have a level 60 to get the equipment, although if you only PvP'ed starting at 30 you would probably hit 70 before you met the requirements. I feel like all that would qualify someone to be a PvP mentor.

(double post, too long)

[Phantom325]

Lock it behind Top 100 in Feast then. Show that you really want this mentorship.

Too easy to just bot X number of games in Frontlines or Rival Wings.

Eh. Mentorship through PvE isn't gated behind being part of the Realm First clears, I don't think PvP should be any different. Although I'm probably biased, I like my suggestion of having to earn all 3 Garo mounts as it's fairly time consuming and encompasses both Feast and Frontline, so PvP mentors would have a decent mix of both. Countering the botting point, you're not wrong, however if I wished to bot I could fairly easily write a bot (albeit badly coded and likely to get me banned) that would kill Ifrit normal for me to grind out 1,000 instances overnight.

[PArcher]

Getting top 100 in the Feast isn't much of a metric of skill either, especially with wintraders running rampant, and some people just putting in the time and repeated tries to get up there. Not every skilled player makes top 100.

Oh, we all know that. Surprised the wintraders haven't shown themselves as much this season actually (or at least not during prime time)

I'm also a trying to think of a way to keep out all the people who would see this as an easy way to get mentorship, but cry about how OP healers are in RW because burst is too hard to do >.>
(and of course I'm abusing being a healer there. People just have no idea what to do against someone who knows the basics of PvP healing. Its hilarious)

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

I think both pvp and pve mentors need revamp. Put mentorship based on commendations during Mentor Roullette and change that roullete to include pvp modes. The roullete should be a requirement to be a mentor, not a privilege for mentors to run.