[dev1212] More Info Dev's? What do we the players want?

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

if it's going to be an open world boss then it needs to not have spawn conditions and repop every 5 mins (like the stronghold NMs). Unless we want to have a repeat of the massive bot problem XI had.

But yes I would be down for some more world NMs if they are implemented properly.

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XI did this with bosses:

Dungeon was open world as they also served as XP locations, but if you were on a certain quest or mission you had to travel in further to a BCNM area which is generally instanced except for a few of the that served as a "transition" spot, i.e Chamber of Oracles (before they changed it) and Garden of Ru`Hmet. You didn't fight the boss in an open world settings (those were generally HNMs, wyrms and ground kings that people botted) that way the journey to it can also be a part of the experience, then you finally get to boss, kind of like how other FF games were.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

XI did this with bosses:

Dungeon was open world as they also served as XP locations, but if you were on a certain quest or mission you had to travel in further to a BCNM area which is generally instanced except for a few of the that served as a "transition" spot, i.e Chamber of Oracles (before they changed it) and Garden of Ru`Hmet. You didn't fight the boss in an open world settings (those were generally HNMs, wyrms and ground kings that people botted) that way the journey to it can also be a part of the experience, then you finally get to boss, kind of like how other FF games were.

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completely agree with this idea. +1
only thing I would NOT want to do is have the beastmen seals of XI. (have not played in many years but back when I did the only way to get seals was to actually gain XP off the mob, meaning if you had nothing to lvl at a low lvl you would need atleast 1 other person with you to go into the high lvl beastmen areas, made farming seals a huge pain, but they may have changed that after I quit)

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Originally Posted by DyskoFox

Edit: I would like it to be stated I would rather be called a goblin then a troll. I am a lala afterall. Thus I am not large enough to be a troll.

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silence goblin! now find me those hobits!

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

+1 to you sir.

what do you think about the new raids?

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i'm personally happy with the content that has been added in the last few patches. i'm not a fan of the nuts and dropping multiples of the same item when i could give it to someone that needed it, but the fights are fun. the only issue i have is the amount of content being so small. it's hard to justify a single fight being worth 6-8 weeks worth of payment. they get old and stale when they are the only thing.

darkhold was fun, but the timer was a little bit of a turn off. the fight with the ogre and battral was great by comparison to the nm's that we had to fight before it was released. i was tired of beating on them for months at a time. the problem is the gear from there was completely outdated the following patch.

the strongholds were good for leveling up and had some nice drops. the sentinel set is very nice as it can have materia attached to it. the rest of the gear sets leave alot to be desired to make them worth getting. the boss fights at the end were decent, but not even as good as the original 5 nm's were.

the ifrit battle was really good. i enjoyed it very much for the first 100 kills. after that and got to over 250 kills and still didn't have the last drop though and i was pure sick of it. the mage weapons still need major work from it. the thm as the attacking mage needed the magic crit, but it would have been better as a 2 handed weapon as it is the damage mage. the con would have been better with a 1 handed weapon with a shield because they are more for healing parties and the wand should have had a healing stat and not a attack stat.

moogle. i really don't know what to say about the moogle fight. i have went in a few times and i'm just not really a fan of it at all. it's less of a strategic fight than what i prefer to be involved in. i've only went in a few times though and am not really concerned with beating it because i refuse to do the die revive method. most groups i have went in with have been making plans to die and raise before even entering the fight and that's just not something i want to be involved in.

overall i'd say the new content all has some good points and bad points, but there is just not enough of it to keep my attention between patches. i'm not a fan of the much slower battle the game has now and the way they keep acting like they are lost on how to work on the mage classes, but if there were more content to keep me involved i could overlook alot of those issues. even if they released 1-2 world nm's to go with their dungeons/raids/primals where you could fight like the original 5 that dropped mats i would have enough to keep me interested because i'd fight them repeatedly until i got hq gear off them all.

The OP has made more then one thread that were ignorant shots based on his lack of information before he posted. He then argues how he is not wrong and bashes everyone who post on the thread, calling them troll and other names. Similar to this thread how he blindly bashes the devs for a lack of communication, thus showing his complete, blind, and total ignorance on the issue. the devs have been extremely comunicative, listed to our feedback, replied to our feedback, and demonstrated further by its in game application.

Then as his last 3 threads he started, tries to claim it was a bad day, an iration moment of nerd rage, or some other ridiculos excuse.

Plain and simple he should just man up and apologize, admit he was wrong to make his false accusation.

The thread was started by the first 3 lines of false accusation and ignorant tone about communication. At that point it truely started off as a negative troll thread. Anything said to or about that afterwards is earned by those 3 lines. Pair that with the fact that most of the OPs post are there to defend similar comments in other threads as well, he displays a history of posting about things he knows little about. There fore earns any comments he gets.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Dyskofox is wrong. The OP has made more then one thread that were ignorant shots based on his lack of information before he posted. He then argues how he is not wrong and bashes everyone who post on the thread, calling them troll and other names. Similar to this thread how he blindly bashes the devs for a lack of communication, thus showing his complete, blind, and total ignorance on the issue. the devs have been extremely comunicative, listed to our feedback, replied to our feedback, and demonstrated further by its in game application.

Then as his last 3 threads he started, tries to claim it was a bad day, an iration moment of nerd rage, or some other ridiculos excuse.

Plain and simple he should just man up and apologize, admit he was wrong to make his false accusation.

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same troll different thread. did not "bash" SE...this is bashing SE: SE SUCKS THIS GAME IS STUPID ZOMG

retard.

if you have nothing to say about the new raids then shut up.

The universe is indeed winning.

Proof: this thread.

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Originally Posted by LicontAshontear

same troll different thread. did not "bash" SE...this is bashing SE: SE SUCKS THIS GAME IS STUPID ZOMG

retard.

if you have nothing to say about the new raids then shut up.

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If you want to have an honest and frank discussion about raids and what people would like to see in the upcoming patch, change the tone of the original post. (And your subsequent ones wouldn't hurt either.) By and large that's the cause of much of the (continuing) animosity here. But, at this point, it might be a case of too little, too late.

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Originally Posted by normalforce

If you want to have an honest and frank discussion about raids and what people would like to see in the upcoming patch, change the tone of the original post. (And your subsequent ones wouldn't hurt either.) By and large that's the cause of much of the (continuing) animosity here. But, at this point, it might be a case of too little, too late.

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I will not apologize for doing nothing wrong in the first place. I will not edit my posts because there is nothing wrong with them. They started the flame war, and they got what they wanted. Don't start it and it wont happen at all.

Oh dear...

My post was certainly not trolling, was genuine WTF... Sometimes its the way something reads that gets peoples backs up, if it is constantly happening to the OP then maybe he/she needs to have a look a how they are wording their posts. (When reading this OP i pictured someone that had just come out of a coma, trying to play a game with the keyboard upside-down whilst giving the middle finger to everyone).

P.S. Demanding a Dev response is usually the best way not to get one, well especially since they r on holiday.