Please add the Savage exclusive phase of O4S to O4N

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

The Savage exclusive phase of O4 isn't important to the story

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No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

Not getting into why but it's not possible in my life currently. Toned down is still probably ten minutes of perfection destroyed by one mistake and I am not presently at the point in my life where I can do this.

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If you truly cannot do that they sorry to be harsh but that is neither the playerbase nor the devs problem. The devs have done everything they can to make the raid accessible while also making it the most difficult content in the game (some would even say they went overboard with laxing the difficulty).

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

NM was awful and a huge letdown for one of my favorite final bosses in the entire series and I don't think it's unreasonable to open a fanservice fight to the majority of the playerbase who for whatever reason do not raid.

So SE if you're reading this please don't gate fanservice fights like this it really sucks

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lets call NM what it really is, story mode. You got the story and you got to see a basic version of the encounters, that is more than enough, there is no reason why you should get to see the badass moments of the true final superboss of the game, fanservice or not.

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

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I'd say that the fact that this thread exists makes it a huge incentive to raid wouldn't you say? That would mean that gating the phase is a good idea. I haven't been this hyped to participate in actual raid encounters since T9, and that is an extremely good thing.

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

They can put it on the mogstation.

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I'd buy it

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

If you truly cannot do that they sorry to be harsh but that is neither the playerbase nor the devs problem. The devs have done everything they can to make the raid accessible while also making it the most difficult content in the game (some would even say they went overboard with laxing the difficulty).



lets call NM what it really is, story mode. You got the story and you got to see a basic version of the encounters, that is more than enough, there is no reason why you should get to see the badass moments of the true final superboss of the game, fanservice or not.

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There's no reason I should and no reason I shouldn't. I am posting to request that they change it. That's all.

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

No, but it is a huge fanservice fight and that shouldn't be raid-gated

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You realize that 99% of FFXIV is fanservice right? I'm not trying to really go into it in a thread like this but there's very little original ideas in XIV. Literally there's a 24man coming up entirely based around the world of Ivalice. I don't think "it's fanservice" is a justification in this particular MMO.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

You realize that 99% of FFXIV is fanservice right? I'm not trying to really go into it in a thread like this but there's very little original ideas in XIV. Literally there's a 24man coming up entirely based around the world of Ivalice. I don't think "it's fanservice" is a justification in this particular MMO.

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Yes, and until now none of it has been savage/extreme exclusive. This is a trend I hope there is some resistance too before they pull this on Kefka, or Zeromus, or Sephiroth.

Its fine. He can suggest it all he wants- It's still never going to happen.

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

I am posting to request that they change it. That's all.

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Thats fine and all, I am posting to counter your request and asking the devs to ignore it. That's all.

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Originally Posted by blackbluesky

There's no reason I shouldn't

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Other than the fact that you don't have the progression requirements

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Thats fine and all, I am posting to counter your request and ask the devs to ignore it. That's all.

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Then do so and don't try to change my mind about what I do or don't deserve or should or shouldn't have access to. To me this was important enough to make a thread about on the official forums that I never use. If you feel so strongly that it should stay the way it is then by all means do the same.

What exactly is stopping you from going there yourself? It's not like it's particularly hard..

It's not like every single raider is of the same caliber as those of ANGERED, who've cleared all the savage content in a day. Those guys are beasts, congrats to them. But most people just take it at their own pace, so what's stopping you from doing the same?