the "relic" and "anima" and whatever 4.0 version of it should not be powerful

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

Wait...really?

These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
This needs to stop.

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Alexandrian Metal Spear
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pst35xbpt6.png

?????

What powerful? The reason I did relic for my SCH is because I freakin' need the ACCURACY!

Also the book from A12S stats is ugly af.

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Originally Posted by Taika

I think a relic weapon should absolutely be powerful, but instead of casual grinds they should be awarded for clearing all the content in the game (on the job it's being awarded for). I'd like them to be more rare and epic, something to be an ultimate goal in this game.

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See, I would have agreed with you before during ARR as the weapons we built were supposed to be legendaries their own right. But since doing the Anima I don't mind so much now, and would be great if they can just keep the story of the weapon and the Anima rolling. I like the idea of the Anima being the weapon that could always be by your side, even if not always as strong as weapons of primals or ancients. It could be a really deep well for lore and character development. I'd trade that for being the most powerful.

One is hard.

One is time consuming.

It's a pretty fair system.

Sorry, I disagree. That is all.

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Originally Posted by Taika

I think a relic weapon should absolutely be powerful, but instead of casual grinds they should be awarded for clearing all the content in the game (on the job it's being awarded for). I'd like them to be more rare and epic, something to be an ultimate goal in this game.

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You do know this is a casual game.

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

I think this would be a good idea.

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No, this is a dumb idea.

Reasons, the expansion comes out on June 21st with early access four to five days prior. By June 21st, there's gonna be the same song and dance from when Heavensward was released. People crying about how crafted gear that will given out through quest was better than their relic/savage weapon. Even before you hit level cap. So at this point what does it matter...

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Jealous isn't the right word. More like, I am annoyed that braindead grinds are given the same merit and achievement as mastering the game when it is clearly not the same thing.

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The point is to give struggling players a slight edge. Maybe they are close to an A11S clear but needed that extra damage from their Anima. As someone who cleared Savage well before 3.5, I couldn't care less if an easier path is made for inexperienced players. Good for them. Maybe next raid tier, they'll have learned enough to not need their relic, and that's only a good thing.

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

Guess what! you did A1S 100 times in 3.5 and how have an i270 wep with best secondary stats for your job! Grats!

Wait...really?

These weps should be for glam and/or at least 30ilvls lower than the current BiS weps in the game. You literally do nothing of skill to achieve exactly what those who bust their ass actually learning and mastering the game achieve.
Make these things glam only or reduce their ilvl and stats because its outrageous and insulting.
This needs to stop.

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dat clickbait, you just wanna see the world burn

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Originally Posted by Jandor

One is hard.

One is time consuming.

It's a pretty fair system.

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What? One is hard and time consuming and the other is just grind for a couple days. Same power (sometimes relic is even better). You can't be serious.

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Originally Posted by DinahDemiurge

What? One is hard and time consuming and the other is just grind for a couple days. Same power (sometimes relic is even better). You can't be serious.

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What couple of days?