Is 3.1 going to be big or not?

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Originally Posted by warren-ragnarok

keep in mind the 4 trials had already existed, and i think they only added the ex modes for those because alot of requests, im not sure if SE had intentions of adding them originally. but main point, they had something existing to do it with. comparing it to 2.1 is a bad idea tbh

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Thordan already exists, meaning we get no new trials unless they're hiding something which I do doubt. There are plenty of trials that they could make an extreme form of, Hildibrand, Steps of Faith, The Chrysalis, etc. but they couldn't for whatever reason. I'll have to assume it's due to airship exploration, due to airship exploration the relic has been pushed back, we've lost a dungeon and lost one original hard mode trial + an extreme version. I hope it's worth it and not "The Hunt 3.1 edition".

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Originally Posted by Balipu

The way I understand you can gather materials on exploration missions as well. Wouldn't be surprised if there were special crafting mats on exp missions that cant be obtained any other way.

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I want PvE content.

I don't care about gathered materials or special crafting materials. I don't want gatherers wasting space on my boat rides either.

I play this game for endgame PvE, and so far, I'm not impressed by the airship content.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

I want PvE content.

I don't care about gathered materials or special crafting materials. I don't want gatherers wasting space on my boat rides either.

I play this game for endgame PvE, and so far, I'm not impressed by the airship content.

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If by endgame you're meaning an expectation of Savage mode type of content there, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed. It really does seem like it'll be grind-central for catch up gear acquisition and glamour, along with the insanely small potential for BiS equipment based on RNG for killing the more difficult mobs of the area. Pretty much Hunt mobs but full time and potential gear/item drops instead of seals/tomes.

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Originally Posted by dank1

It wont be as big as you think it is, no. No patch in any game ever is as big as the people who overhype everything think is, this will be proven as long as one person bitches about it cause at that point the patch didnt live up to at least one persons hype.
In all seriousness asking a question like this is completely subjective because cause everyone has different standards but more often than not, those who ask "WIL DIS BEE DA BEST PATHC EVSR GUISE??!??!" people are also the first to complain every.single.time.

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Good point. The problem is, even I am not sure how big it will be. I tried to look at it in terms of numbers as that is at least an objective way to compare patches.

We can compare the number of normal and hard dungeons, hard an extreme trials, and reputation faction.

It gets tricky with airship exploration and Lords of Verminion as they can't be comared to ninjas or housing because the same people are likely not responsible for creating them and we cannot see how many development time each feature necessitates.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

Makes sense I guess. Although 2.1 gave us one dungeon, two hard mode dungeons. one raid, one normal trial and four extreme trials. Granted all that is a little extreme.


Like I said it sounds massive from one angle and seems lacking from another.

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Again, Island Exploration, if you have been paying attention to the information, instead of 3 dungeons, the development spent on that 3rd dungeon is being shifted into Island exploration. It's honestly ignorant to say we are losing content when that's far from the case, if anything we're being given something with more substance compared to dungeons that just turn into a drone activity a few weeks in because it's always the same thing. At least Island Exploration gives the opportunity for a more open ended experience which will hope to wet the appetites of those looking for a more open ended dungeon experience.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

If by endgame you're meaning an expectation of Savage mode type of content there, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed. It really does seem like it'll be grind-central for catch up gear acquisition and glamour, along with the insanely small potential for BiS equipment based on RNG for killing the more difficult mobs of the area. Pretty much Hunt mobs but full time and potential gear/item drops instead of seals/tomes.

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I'm talking about stuff to do involving killing monsters with level 60 characters.

I don't craft.
I don't gather.
I don't Pokemon.
I don't Gold Saucer.
I don't PvP.

I know, I'm a minority. Doesn't stop me from telling people what I want out of a game.

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Originally Posted by Airget

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I think it's too early to be calling airship exploration something new that won't turn into a mindless grind, for all we know there's going to be a set route to take for each island you can land on to achieve the best loot (statistically in the 90 minutes). Avoiding all low ranking mobs, etc and that's the way everyone will do it. Considering we have do it forever without any major lockouts, it's going to become a drone activity after a week or two most likely. The same goes for all content except for things like Lords of Verminion, housing, and fun mini games.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

I'm talking about stuff to do involving killing monsters with level 60 characters.

I don't craft.
I don't gather.
I don't Pokemon.
I don't Gold Saucer.
I don't PvP.

I know, I'm a minority. Doesn't stop me from telling people what I want out of a game.

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Then I would think the airship content would be appealing for you. It's not like you need to have an FC to do it, though I don't know if there are perks to having one. It appears to be content to just kill mobs, with some mechanics that'll require a bit of attention, I'm sure... at least for the harder ones.

3 months to 3.2 will be so looooooong.

With zero challenge. Zero purpose to improve our gear as raider.

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Originally Posted by Airget

Again, Island Exploration, if you have been paying attention to the information, instead of 3 dungeons, the development spent on that 3rd dungeon is being shifted into Island exploration. It's honestly ignorant to say we are losing content when that's far from the case, if anything we're being given something with more substance compared to dungeons that just turn into a drone activity a few weeks in because it's always the same thing. At least Island Exploration gives the opportunity for a more open ended experience which will hope to wet the appetites of those looking for a more open ended dungeon experience.

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Well some of the patches that gave us two hard mode dungeons (and thereby made extreme roulette more bearable) gave us stuff like PVP, housing, treasure hunts, hunts and new classes. These cannot be measured against each other for reasons I mentioned elsewhere.

The patch is packed with stuff that cannot be objectively measured against similar features in other patches and seemingly (I repeat: seemingly) falls behind on the number of easily measureable content. Hence my question wether it will be big or not.

I don't think I am ignorant for believing this, but feal free to prove me wrong.