What if zeal adds 2% attack/cast speed and spend 4% less TP per stack while virtue adds 2% def and mdef and defensive cooldowns refresh 3% faster per stack? Furthermore, upon reaching 5 stacks, their respective oaths will light up and will perform a special move consuming all stacks and disabling the oath when used: sword oath will deal an aoe attack that applies dot on affected targets while shield oath will deal aoe damage that ignores the penalty of shield oath and has increased enmity mod.
It would still retain the simplicity of the job while adding another layer of perks on it.
Paladin DPS "Holy Aura" idea: Zeal
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08-29-2015, 08:35 AMrawker
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08-29-2015, 08:43 AMNektulos-TuorPaladin doesn't really need attack speed and TP reduction in tank stance. They need a little AOE aggro more then anything else for Zeal.Quote:
Originally Posted by rawker
Paladin does need TP reduction for Virtue, however Mdef/Def/CD reduction for Virtue would be a little overpowered.
Paladin needs more complexity. Its honestly a boring class. -
08-30-2015, 04:31 AMNadirahWe're supposed to be the "boring" meat shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor
I like it that way. While the class could use tweaks, you're adding stack buffs to micromanage and crap that isn't necessary. You want that go play DRK or MNK. -
08-30-2015, 05:12 AMNektulos-TuorMicromanage what? This is less Micromanagement you get out of a hero in HOTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadirah
You can leave the buff on for a permanent buff, or use abilities to enhance it and take stacks away. It is really not complicated. -
08-30-2015, 08:10 AMGalgarion
Sounds too much like an old world of warcraft skill.
But you do have a good point: Paladins lack a dps self-buff like maim or darkside. They could surely benefit from such a thing. -
08-30-2015, 11:11 AMNadirahWhich is how warriors work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor
No thanks. -
08-30-2015, 05:26 PMHitoseijuroNo, Paladin needs more paladin. Currently the class is playing like a gladiator. Honestly, where are all the abilities that make paladin, an actual "paladin" class. Where are all the holy spells/abilities for paladin(holy as in light affinity/alignment not the actual spell)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor
Divine veil? clemency? Is that your best SE ? We're in 3.0 and its taken that long to add anything remotely "paladin" like to the actual job, not to mention clemency isn't even viable in raids yet at least not really practical without a need of actual tweaks.
Lets be honest here, we all want to play Paladin like Agrias Oaks or Cidolfus Orlandeau. -
08-30-2015, 09:24 PMDuelleDitto. K.I.S.S. and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadirah
Erm...the job is called Knight in Japanese for a reason. We're not D&D paladins with gods that give us powers or Warcraft paladins that manifest miracles through their faith. We're knights. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitoseijuro
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08-31-2015, 01:28 AMHitoseijuroAnd yet Square Enix has used paladin as a knight that had access to white magic spells. I never compared "Paladin" to any other series Paladin from other game makers or lore, only to what Square Enix has used already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duelle
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08-31-2015, 03:52 AMNektulos-TuorNo, Warriors work by building up charges to max, keeping the buff or expending the buff to use the resources completely. They "need" it and its an awesome part of their kit. This is minor, its something to help the paladin and it works a lot differently. It doesn't make or break your class like warriors does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadirah