Help:Scholar eso weapon

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Originally Posted by Farrell

Well if you have the Hive it is +2 weapons damage and +9 mind, and If you have the 180 chest it is +15 mind. It's fairly close. Also when you factor in the crit on the weapon you get to keep (although you are going to lose it no matter what eventually, until relic) and the slight defense boost of the chest make the chest a decent first buy.

Also @ckc22 the gordian legs have 94 crit on them and wil be bis, so if you recommend buying order I would consider that.

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First off wd is estimated at close to 10 of a primary stat so the weapon is almost double the chest piece.

Second I included a qualifier that said assuming no alex gear - obviously obtaining BiS by mixing and matching with savage gear will change things up a bit but it's too individualized to fit in the context of what my post was trying to get at.

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Originally Posted by Akyio

Does anyone actually know 100% how crit hit rate works lately ? Because even stacking maximum doesn't really give more than 15%?

Weapon however has damage increase(healing increase), but i can't believe square would give SCH a weapon with spell speed >.>

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Gotta remember, stats are scaled now to be viable to the end of 3.x, where gear is going to have more stats. We weren't at a 25% crit rate at the beginning of 2.x, either. And yes, we do know:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...mage_formulae/

Critical Hit Chance: ((CRT-354)*0.0233)+4.9511233

In essence, every 43 points of crit will increase your critical rate 1%.

Scholar weapon sucks. Don't blindly go for it if you have the hive weapon. 83 crit is a lot, and even I can notice a difference in that.

The way scholar works, even if you just crit a couple more times a fight, that still more than makes up for a little less mind. Weapon will be the dead last thing I buy, if I get it at all. Relic is around the corner anyway!

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Scholar weapon sucks. Don't blindly go for it if you have the hive weapon. 83 crit is a lot, and even I can notice a difference in that.

The way scholar works, even if you just crit a couple more times a fight, that still more than makes up for a little less mind. Weapon will be the dead last thing I buy, if I get it at all. Relic is around the corner anyway!

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This would be true if stat weights were the same as before 3.0 hit, but sadly this is not the case.

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Originally Posted by Wizarus

Spellspeed is best on a SCH, who can take advantage of the 3.0 buffs the most.

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This is the exact opposite of true. Thanks to the 3.0 Scholar changes, Scholar gets the least benefit from Spellspeed of any class, including Summoner.

1. Embrace's throughput gains less from SS, since its recast is longer than its cast time. No matter what, Scholar's healing gets less from SS than WHM and AST's as a result.
2. Cleric Stance has a hard time gate of 5 seconds. No amount of SS will let you add a fourth action in that time.
3. Thanks to Broil, Scholar damage is now gated by MP rather than by GCD. SS will not allow you to cast more Broils against Savage content; Piety will.

So, where does that leave us? SS increases your DoT damage by less than Determination, and is the third-best stat at improving your chain cast heals. Every other stat (including Piety) is better than SS for those things, and it's not particularly close

Putting math aside, the average player isn't goin to see a savage weapon for months. You are going to buy it eventually, why on earth would you hold out on getting it?

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Originally Posted by Pentt

Putting math aside, the average player isn't goin to see a savage weapon for months. You are going to buy it eventually, why on earth would you hold out on getting it?

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I believe its because players believe that getting two pieces of armor is better than getting the weapon, its more or less a question of "Is this the right purchase at this point of time?"

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Originally Posted by Kyani

Embrace's throughput is not affected by SS. No matter what, Scholar's healing gets less from SS than WHM and AST's.

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This is incorrect. Spell speed does affect pets.

From the 3.0 patch notes:

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In order to receive the effects of the caster's spell speed attribute, all pet actions excluding auto-attacks have been changed to elemental damage.

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Originally Posted by Litner

I believe its because players believe that getting two pieces of armor is better than getting the weapon, its more or less a question of "Is this the right purchase at this point of time?"

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But by the time you buy the weapon after using that many esoterics you could have gotten enough shafts for the 190 chest. Doesn't make much sense.

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Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur

This is incorrect. Spell speed does affect pets.

From the 3.0 patch notes:

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I looked it up, and it looks like you're correct - it does affect her recast time, which marginally improves her time-per-heal. I had been under the impression that her recast stayed the same, because the tooltip doesn't update (and it's very difficult to notice without adding a ton of SS), but that's incorrect. I'll update to a more accurate version of the pet SS interaction.