Parsers make you stupid

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Originally Posted by Aethaeryn

Definitely not true. A month or two before the expansion, someone was complaining about how I was doing 450 dps on my i118 geared bard in a farming dungeon while his monk buddy was doing like 550 in BiS gear. I was playing bard for fun, and we still finished the dungeon in like 16 minutes or something, so I'm not sure what the problem was.

Also, it's pretty easy for an offtank (especially warrior) to outdamage a melee in A4 if they just stay on the boss the whole time and make the melee handle all of the mechanics they should be handling.

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If a monk was outdpsing a BRD in a dungeon, you were failing to AoE efficiently. That's complaint worthy.

Saying "playing for fun" is the most redundant and defeatest thing ever. Everyone plays for fun. Stop using "fun" as an excuse for being terrible.

Also, if an OT is within 100 dps (about how much they'd lose at most doing mechanics) in A4 of a MNK, then there is something very wrong with what the MNK is doing.

I am honestly having a hard time trying to figure out what in the world the OP is talking about and what it has to do with parsers.

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Originally Posted by averageamn

If a monk was outdpsing a BRD in a dungeon, you were failing to AoE efficiently. That's complaint worthy.

Saying "playing for fun" is the most redundant and defeatest thing ever. Everyone plays for fun. Stop using "fun" as an excuse for being terrible.

Also, if an OT is within 100 dps (about how much they'd lose at most doing mechanics) in A4 of a MNK, then there is something very wrong with what the MNK is doing.

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This is why we don't allow public parsers. =d

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Originally Posted by Assirra

I am honestly having a hard time trying to figure out what in the world the OP is talking about and what it has to do with parsers.

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Basically that some people using parsers stare themselves blind on those numbers and ignore mechanics cos "MOAR DEEPS!", and then rag on the people doing mechanics, sometimes the mechanics the tunnelvisioned people should be taking care of, for not having "good" dps numbers....

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Originally Posted by Xystic

This is why we don't allow public parsers. =d

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Instead of using a one-liner with an era 2000 emoticon, could you expand?

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Originally Posted by m3eansean

I firmly believe, if there was a public in-game parser everyone could see, people would grow up quite fast and establish much more realistic and pragmatic views regarding their potential as DPS. Developing a thick skin is a life lesson.

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Having played several other games, two of which have widely available parsers(including the predominant one used here), this is *not* the case.

People will never "grow up quite fast" and "establish much more realistic and pragmatic views regarding their potential as DPS". They'll continue to bitch about parsers.

And numbers aren't everything. Nothing more annoying than that one wipe where the DPS that didn't follow mechanics died but still brags about his burst.

Or those folks thinking HPS > all.

Out of sight, out of mind, just play the game. If you DF a instance, remember where you are. If you don't like how others are playing, form your own party of heroes.

How to correctly use a parser in most situations:

1) Launch the parser and make sure it works.
2) Minimize the parser.
3) Focus on the fight.
4) Finish the fight.
5) Look at your numbers.

Everything else is for mashing on training dummies, I've never used a parser on this game in-particular but unless you're a confident multi-tasker this is generally what you should do.

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Originally Posted by ivyblue

op.

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If you are a victim of harassment, especially when the perp claims to be using a 3rd party tool such as a parser as a basis to harass you. Report them and the GM's will happily slap them around for you.

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Originally Posted by Nadirah

Having played several other games, two of which have widely available parsers(including the predominant one used here), this is *not* the case.

People will never "grow up quite fast" and "establish much more realistic and pragmatic views regarding their potential as DPS". They'll continue to bitch about parsers.

And numbers aren't everything. Nothing more annoying than that one wipe where the DPS that didn't follow mechanics died but still brags about his burst.

Or those folks thinking HPS > all.

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People do this now...having an in game parser isn't going to change things. This is a fear based arguments to not allow in game parsers. A parser is literally only information, it is up to the people using that information to determine how it is being used.