Moonlet Earring :( i want one!

As a legacy player myself, I really don't care if items are "exclusive" or not. Similar to that, it should come as little surprise that I posted on these forums repeatedly about how stupid it was for primal mounts to have such a low drop rate (the drop rate, after being adjusted like 3-4 times, is only just now in an acceptable range). The dev team wanted to preserve their "rarity". Ridiculous. If it's rare because the drop rate is super low, or because it's no longer available... so what? I don't think you're cool because you're lucky. If you got something that can only be obtained by beating ultra difficult content... well, I probably still won't think you're cool, but at least you had to do something besides win the lottery or just happen to be there in order to get the item.

That said, I wouldn't mind if they brought back most/all the exclusive items from 1.0. As the prime example, it'd be nice if there was a recreated White Raven fight, like if the minstrel gave you a battle similar to how they did Ultima, and you could get the earrings from there. Then you would still have to beat the content, but it would no longer be time-locked.

Don't have those earrings in particular but I wouldn't mind seeing any 1.0 items that make sense to bring back, those I have or not. Doesn't make sense to me for some items to be limited, if lore doesn't demand them to be at least. "oh no i ran out of that one material from those one monsters that you can find everywhere but we wont skin them for that one material even though they are totally actually still available" yeah I dont like that logic lol.

They should add some of the older 1.0 items to the cash shop for at least $10 or $15. Higher price because it should be fair to the players in 1.0, while still being fair to those who never played back then. Plus, SE would get money for the hard work they put in at 1.0 to make 2.0 and beyond :P

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

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Awww come on, you're getting your elitist kicks from being stubborn enough to put yourself through the torture of playing a bad game?

I take no pride in the fact of having played Arc the Lad 4.. or Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games.. Being too stubborn to admit the truth is just... well, just stubborn :P
Because you've had to suffer, doesn't mean the rest of the World must suffer with you to attain your greatness

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After discussing with a close (1.0) friend, there is one way I'd be absolutely fine with the items being re-released. All I'd want is for the original meaning to be honoured. You want the Dalamud horn? Make it a quest where you're given the backstory of what happened and what the significance was. It makes me sad when I hear new players call Louisoix "that old guy," so a quest event where you're given a replica of what we got while also being given the chance to learn the story would be fine. Of course people would mash A to get through the text as quickly as possible, but that's another issue entirely.

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This would be an awesome way to give newer player insight into the history. Unfortunately, I don't think as many of those newer players as you or I would like, will be interested in the actual lore, they will just want the stuff.

As for anyone calling Louisoix "that old guy", they should be forced to watch the collected cut scenes of 1.x on constant loop for a day or two.

I didn't play 1.x, but I know something of who Louisoix is/was. I did some research on Eorzea before joining the 3rd Beta of ARR. On top of that, the artistry of the animation in the main opening video should be more than enough to help new players understand that Louisoix was/is an extremely significant in Eorzean history. Not to mention the incredible nature of what he was able to do both in the attempt to reseal Bahamut, but also in the sacrifice be made to protect and safeguard both the adventurers (including the warriror of light) as well as the Eorzean forces that survived.

Perhaps I am reading too much into it, but in that sequence, I see the emotion and look on his face when he saves the warriror of light and his party. I see in Louisoix, someone who has tried their very best against impossible odds, but is at peace with them self and what they have accomplished. Perhaps knowing that his final act may have safeguarded Eorzea's future. Either way, I have feel the emotion and have even shed a tear at his sacrifice. I wish that somehow, somewhere Lousioix reappears in Eorzea - in our time.

Hopefully my Sig illustrates that I see some of his significance at least.

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I take no pride in the fact of having played Arc the Lad 4.. or Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games..

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Um...Xenosaga 3 was far from terrible. Even the least good of the 3 Xenosaga games was so far from terrible, that it resides on the good end of the spectrum. It's all according to personal taste of course, but calling a game that many people do in fact love, terrible, is asking for trouble. Xenosaga as a whole is generally either loved or hated - or dismissed by people who believe (often without playing even a moment of Xenosaga) that Xenogears was far superior - though dismissing a game you have not played is rather a stupid thing to do.

I am a legacy player also, but I wouldn't mind if they added items that newer players missed. I mean...why not? Like another poster said we are a community so why not let others share in the awesome experience of 1.0 even if its just through having a earring or unicorn horn (lol @ that horn xD).

Yeah we could have a quest with backstory or just add it to ventures or the mogstation, I don't see why it would be an issue since those pieces are strictly glamour stuff.

My character's legacy mark tattoo on her back is enough to say I was there, we also have the legacy chocobo. Which I doubt those would ever be for anyone but legacy, so why not share the other things?

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Originally Posted by Gillionaire

Awww come on, you're getting your elitist kicks from being stubborn enough to put yourself through the torture of playing a bad game?

I take no pride in the fact of having played Arc the Lad 4.. or Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games.. Being too stubborn to admit the truth is just... well, just stubborn :P
Because you've had to suffer, doesn't mean the rest of the World must suffer with you to attain your greatness

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You are coming off kinda rude here, just to let you know. Like Kos said it is personal taste. Even though 1.0 had its flaws I still had a fun experience on it.
Yeah I know the person you are replying to is coming off rude saying things like "you don't deserve it", but you are coming off ever ruder.

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You're being far more polite to me than I deserve, to be honest. It's refreshing. I apologize for being rude and for ruining what should have been a light-hearted thread. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to learn the game's history.

It's people like Gillionaire I take issue with however. The kind of person who says "Wow I can't believe you played that utter pile of crap lol who cares if you got rewarded with cool stuff it was a garbage game" only to turn around and say "I should get all that same stuff you got too because reasons." Your opinion doesn't match mine. I assure you I didn't force myself to play the game nor am I "too stubborn" to "admit the truth." 1.0 at launch was bad, but 1.23 was amazing and had many facets that were miles better than what we currently have.

Miste, my concern really comes down to how it's handled. I said before I'd okay with a replica and an event recognizing the significance of what they represent. If it's simply just a throw-away recolour or even just a rename with an identical model though, then that sets a precedent. I really doubt SE would do it, like you said, but how long until everyone starts clamoring for the legacy tattoo and legacy chocobo too?

"SE PLEASE give me the chance to shower even more money upon you for something that was given to people who played in 1.0 as an exclusive gift."
You can remove half that sentence and still be disgusted by the concept of this thread.

Lol, my mention of those two games were just to mention some sequels that did not live up to its predecessors and killed the franchise. I understand the personal preferences deal, but the general consensus of those two games, and FF14 1.0 even more so, is that it was just generally bad game design. That's up for another debate, but anyhow, expecting some exclusive privileges because you've been playing the game during the bad times as well as the good, well there's really no reward necessary for that other than having done it because you wanted to.

It's like when it comes to sports, all the hardcore fans of the franchise frown upon the fair weather fans, but why? You don't get the special treatment just because you're willing to stick around through the bad, You did it because YOU wanted to, it doesn't deserve any special treatment.

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Xenosaga 3. Those were terrible, terrible games

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Totally off-topic but how could X3 be terrible?
X2 was HORRIBLE! I'm sorry, I'm a big Xenosaga fan but man they
went the wrong direction in 2. The art was awful...No offense to
Kosmos922k since I can tell she may really love the Triology but they killed
KOS-MOS in 2...She was a walking water bottle and the story was eh...the battle system was AWFUL. But that's opinions lol.


Also it does my heart good to see people apologizing on these forums.
Thank you Llen. I also apologize for calling you rude now.