Never Drops in Final Coil

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Originally Posted by dejavutwo

I do like some RNG in the loot system as ultimately the carboncoat/carbontwine are incredibly boring items to go after. I hope with 3.0 they move to a token system similar to WoW's token system. In WoW, there were multiple tokens for each item slot, and each class was tied to a specific token. That way there could be 8+ classes, but only 3 different tokens. It still had some of the excitement of not knowing what your going to get, but certainly reigned in the randomness a lot.

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I have played that game its just a different type of rng and it can be worse, I remember there was like head, body, hands, legs, shoulder tokens. They split the groups up like, (paladin priest warlock), (warrior, hunter, shaman) (mage, druid, rogue, dk). We did this zone firelands it was, half of our group was on the paladin, priest, warlock token 5 people, we raided about 14 weeks before got tired of it and just stopped till the next raid came out, we saw 2 paladin/priest/warlock tokens the entire time. We had our druid who had tier gear for all 3 specs, but our 3 paladins, priest and warlock basically had nothing because they only got 2 drops.

I am so glad FFXIV doesn't use this system, it just has a much greater chance to make it so you don't get your drops. Its not just your class that is effect but everything else that is on the same token as you. RNG keeps favoring the same people every week its no different then FFXIV.

I felt bad for my friend though. Only 1 mnk loot dropped during the period of, I dunno, since the final coil came out. If counting accessory, it would be the 2 total items that monk could use dropped. However, we got like 4 drg's chest armor pieces now, and plenty of other copy pieces from nin, drg, and caster.

Talk about rng...

RNG is RNG...
Example T10 chest 1... 10 pieces can drop meaning 10% each.
17 weeks since Final Coil, unless I miscounted.
Probability of any specific piece from that chest dropping so far, that haven't dropped already, is: 0.83 (1-pow(0.9,17))
Not 1.0... Not even 0.99...
Better start praying to RNGesus if you want your piece ;)

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Originally Posted by Purrfectstorm

POETICS is the token system and you can completely gear up in it before the next major patch and completely upgrade it before the next raid tier.

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Poetic gear has high iLvl. But that does not mean it is a good choice for raiding ;)

Look at your gear. The stats are horrible for a WAR. Also you do not meet the accuracy cap you need to tank in final coil.

RNG is King. Yesterday instapop in progress for WoD, killed last boss, and got my tank drop. 5 minutes. ru ru ruuuuuu.....

been farming t10-11 since november, t12 since mid-end november, havent seen a single NIN loot so far. (And only 1 aiming bracers for our brd).

I've been clearing T12 since the second week after the patch went live and I have yet to see a Dreadwyrm Shield. It baffles me when you get the same combination of drops over and over. I hope they come up with a better loot system (or a token system) for Alexander. Ah, yeah, we got 1 pair of the Dreadwyrm pants of fending, but these were looted by the OT...

16+ kills of t10: no bard piece at all, LOT of tank (5), healer (4) and ninja (4) feet. Feel like a damn Cinderella.
12+ kills of t11: no healer's pants
8+ kills t12: no shield at all
Only 1 kill of t13 so just no double drops for now XD

Really, very bad design loot XD On SCOB even after reset I've never get tank head (seen 2), waist and hands and body (NEVER SEEN).

Earrings - bracelet - ring DEX.
Brd pants from t12
Books and moar books from t13.

Our tanks are full 130 but the shield in t12 is not dropped.
Tank - bard - heal boots for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

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I do like having some randomness to drops because not knowing what your getting does make opening the chests at the end of a fight a bit more exciting. The multiple class per token just significantly reduces the odds of going a long time without getting anything. If they did that in this game I would like to see the tokens broken down as Tank/Healer/Ranged/Melee, which cuts it down from Tank/Healer/Caster/Monk/Bard/Ninja/Dragoon and in a standard group, gives everyone the same amount of competition and chances of getting something - 1/4 where there are almost guaranteed 2 people in the group who can use it vs 1/7 where depending on party comp, nobody may be able to use it is still a huge improvement over what we have.