T13 already beaten

Expect them to release savage coil Fcob then.
Quite sure this version is a trimmed down version for savage.

As previously stated they said "savage" was how they originally saw scob, however they did not implement it because they "thought" it would be too hard.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Turn 10 is already strict. You need very high dps. Much higher dps than being able to skip past the second ghost in Turn 9 and no one can die. No one. One death is all it takes to hit the soft enrage that will quickly kill you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvi63VeK1xU

monk dies
WAR dies
WHM dies

they still won. You might want to review your point

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Originally Posted by MrSigy

Expect them to release savage coil Fcob then.
Quite sure this version is a trimmed down version for savage.

As previously stated they said "savage" was how they originally saw scob, however they did not implement it because they "thought" it would be too hard.

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not really. Savage mode is just the "done but not adjusted" version of a fight. Basically, they throw numbers people can barely if even survive, put rotations of attacks and patterns, test them to see if everything works, then tune the fight down to allow people to kill it without too many problems.

So yeah this is a 100% sure trimmed down version of savage per definition, and they didn't think anything about it as they never considered to implement that version before people asked for it

if there is a savage variation of this fight, hopefully they realize that it should've been released as it was originally intended to to, and not tuned down in future raids. Kudos to Lucretia for being world first, but I feel like theres very possibly the likelihood that these fights were also tuned down as well. Hopefully the devs don't hold back in 3.0. Keep in mind I'm only saying this for the final turn of raids. Because if all turns were of the same difficulty as savage, you wouldn't be able to gather enough gear to down any of them.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvi63VeK1xU

monk dies
WAR dies
WHM dies

they still won. You might want to review your point

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Can't watch the video right now but I bet they hit the soft enrage and were seconds away from a wipe.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Can't watch the video right now but I bet they hit the soft enrage and were seconds away from a wipe.

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They didn't hit soft enrage.

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Turn 10 is already strict. You need very high dps. Much higher dps than being able to skip past the second ghost in Turn 9 and no one can die. No one. One death is all it takes to hit the soft enrage that will quickly kill you. You can't single tank or heal it either. (Not with current gear anyway). So if you needed a 5th dps to push the second ghost, you don't have anywhere near the dps for Turn 10.

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Major exaggeration. You just need to be produce close to optimal dps for your job, that's all that needs to be said. People can die, a SMN ie, and still win. It depends when they die though, especially the last phase.

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Originally Posted by Danbo05

if there is a savage variation of this fight, hopefully they realize that it should've been released as it was originally intended to to, and not tuned down in future raids. Kudos to Lucretia for being world first, but I feel like theres very possibly the likelihood that these fights were also tuned down as well. Hopefully the devs don't hold back in 3.0. Keep in mind I'm only saying this for the final turn of raids. Because if all turns were of the same difficulty as savage, you wouldn't be able to gather enough gear to down any of them.

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Scared the coil is too easy for you? Don't be. Just because hardcore raiders could do it, it doesn't mean that you will ever see the final boss, let alone beat it.

Nice. Gratz to them. I'll never understand why people in this community expect only 4 bosses to take month(s) to down. It makes sense in WoW, for example, where 8-14 at a time is the norm, to figure/perfect each one, but there are ONLY 4 here. There's only so many mechanics they can pile into each one due to game limitations and rationality.

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Originally Posted by Ronove

They didn't hit soft enrage.

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I stand corrected then.

One of the problems is probably Cleric Stance. It breaks most of the DPS checks in raids because they are not balanced for healers adding not insignificant damage that experienced groups can do.