How do newly chreated characters / new players supposed to progress naturually

Well, I suspect that is is easier to just skip to 100 for experienced players. I have some friends at end game that still have no idea what they're doing when it comes to their gears ilvl.

and the crying about thinsg being to hard began.

This is an MMO you arent suposed to go level 1-50 + ilvl120 within a week.

Create a new tank or healer and progression will be natural and normal.

It's probably going to take them as long as it did for me to get to DL after release... No they won't ding 50 and jump into expert roulette... But they will be able to work thier way up through the level 50 dungeons gaining soldiery and potentially drops as they go. There's just not any easy way to jump right in to the most relevant end game content within a week. It will take some time and planning.

Also CT gear drops aren't going to be as useful as soldiery but they are ilvl80 which helps the ilvl requirements for more dungeons and it drops a decent amount of soldiery so it's probably a good place to go as a fresh 50.

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Originally Posted by Kazumac

It's probably going to take them as long as it did for me to get to DL after release... No they won't ding 50 and jump into expert roulette... But they will be able to work thier way up through the level 50 dungeons gaining soldiery and potentially drops as they go. There's just not any easy way to jump right in to the most relevant end game content within a week. It will take some time and planning.

Also CT gear drops aren't going to be as useful as soldiery but they are ilvl80 which helps the ilvl requirements for more dungeons and it drops a decent amount of soldiery so it's probably a good place to go as a fresh 50.

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I don't think CT is the way to go for boosting ilvl. The queues are way too long now to be worthwhile.

>> Nothing said about chreated for 3 pages

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Originally Posted by Felis

Getting Relict shouldn't be a problem. There are now enough overgeared players and the Echo to make the hard primal fights easy.

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u know its Relic right not relict.

Do frontlines - get easy wolf marks and buy all the i90 gear, ez pzee. Rankless i90 gear equivalent to PvE gear and the grind is 100x more fun the hunts and faster too

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

they just get the best gear available (ToP gear) like everyone else, the rest of the gear is irrelevant, can be collect for glamour

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Try saying that as a fresh 50 who can't do dungeons with an ilvl requirement of 60+

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Originally Posted by IzumiYuki

So, far, I have not actually outgeared any content and all the gear I get are usable. I have cleared Ifrit, Garuda, Titan Ex and all the high level dungeons so far through the DF, after I barely made the ilvl requirements. I can assure you we don't lose anything not being able to do roulette right away. The gear progressions is just fine.

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Not to put too fine a point on it, but considering how easy it is to get Soldiery tomes even WITHOUT level 60+ gear, I fail to see how you can consider it a progression. The soldiery gear, I remind you is level 100 and you can earn these tomes on the basic dungeons.

So, in short. Do Amdapor Keep, do Wandering Palace. Both of those are easy enough even in your quested AF gear. Both drop soldiery tomes which are used to purchase level 100 gear. If you get an upgrade in the meantime, great. Equip it. But it's not worth RELYING on those random drops any more. By the time you've found the piece you want, you could've EARNED a better one.