% for melding materia is broken

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

If it is an actual 41% chance, then you expect the results to be 41 out of 100. That's literally what a percent is, a ratio out of 100. Saying 41% is the exact same thing as saying 41/100.

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that's not how probability works. Maybe if this was a single player game and you could only try 100 times that would be true.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I'm aware of that, I'm talking about getting the same end results from five different sequences that were done one after another, you may seem them unrelated because the sequences were different, I don't.

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What I'm saying is once the system tells you that you fail. that is the end of the sequence. all attempts after have no bearing on the previous.
doing it a bunch of times in a row is not going to improve your odds of hitting a positive result.

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Originally Posted by Haibel

What I'm saying is once the system tells you that you fail. that is the end of the sequence. all attempts after have no bearing on the previous.
doing it a bunch of times in a row is not going to improve your odds of hitting a positive result.

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Say you could see the actual number, say you roll a 55 out of 1000 five times in a row, but each roll was unrelated to the previous, would you really say there's nothing wrong with the PRNG picking the same result five times in a row? (I'm not saying this was the case, just an example) I wouldn't blindly rush to defend the PRNG they use when we don't know much about it, we only know the really curious results it gives us.

Note, I'm not the kind to chase ghosts, but their PRNG is far from perfect, there's no such thing as a perfect PRNG.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

Say you could see the actual number, say you roll a 55 out of 1000 five times in a row, but each roll was unrelated to the previous, would you really say there's nothing wrong with the PRNG picking the same result five times in a row? (I'm not saying this was the case, just an example) I wouldn't blindly rush to defend the PRNG they use when we don't know much about it, we only know the really curious results it gives us.

Note, I'm not the kind to chase ghosts, but their PRNG is far from perfect, there's no such thing as a perfect PRNG.

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Yes, I would say there is nothing wrong, because the outcome of any given roll is not predetermined ahead of time. Each time you pick up the dice (example) you roll anew. Trying to pretend the system is on a conspiracy to screw or favor one individual over another is the epitome of ignorance. It's a computer program, it doesn't care about you or how you feel about it. But since you did say his post was complete bullshit, let me add what even he says in the post as an example:

Additionally, even if a random number sequence is generated properly, depending on how the application uses this value, ultimately there may be cases where strange patterns arise.

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Originally Posted by Alukah

It would be great if you didn't add words I never said to support your argument.

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Never once did I say you said anything in the post you quoted, I'm using my point of view of what you are saying, whereas you are using your point of view to argue against what I am saying. But I did add something you said in since you are obviously so distraught.

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Originally Posted by Dgsoil

Yes, I would say there is nothing wrong, because the outcome of any given roll is not predetermined ahead of time. Each time you pick up the dice (example) you roll anew. Trying to pretend the system is on a conspiracy to screw or favor one individual over another is the epitome of ignorance. It's a computer program, it doesn't care about you or how you feel about it.

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It would be great if you didn't add words I never said to support your argument.

Remember they are using PRNG algorithms that may or not be faulty (on top of PRNG not being truly random by definition), I'm just saying, don't take a blind leap without knowing what you're defending.

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Originally Posted by Dgsoil

Never once did I say you said anything in the post you quoted, I'm using my point of view of what you are saying, whereas you are using your point of view to argue against what I am saying. But I did add something you said in since you are obviously so distraught.

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Trying to pretend the system is on a conspiracy to screw or favor one individual over another is the epitome of ignorance. It's a computer program, it doesn't care about you or how you feel about it

Has nothing to do with the post, no one said or implied the PRNG is plotting against us, you just added it to make your argument look more valid.

Indeed, I did imply that you act like it is plotting against you, but once again I never said that you typed those words even once. If you can't realize that a program (yes it is flawed, what made by humans in the long run isnt? Even Hiroshi_Minagawa mentioned how it can seem to follow strange patterns sometimes) has no concept of screwing you over just for fun, then this is a waste of effort because you will stay mad at it as long as you will I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

If it is an actual 41% chance, then you expect the results to be 41 out of 100. That's literally what a percent is, a ratio out of 100. Saying 41% is the exact same thing as saying 41/100.

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don't forget multiples of 10. 410 / 1,000 is 41%. but that is still 590 / 1,000 chances to fail

Well when crafting and sitting at 99% chance of HQ.... and still getting a NQ item in the end. Yeah.

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Originally Posted by Canopia

Well when crafting and sitting at 99% chance of HQ.... and still getting a NQ item in the end. Yeah.

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yeah... I was BETTER than you, i got NQ when 98% chance of HQ... ^^;

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

If it is an actual 41% chance, then you expect the results to be 41 out of 100. That's literally what a percent is, a ratio out of 100. Saying 41% is the exact same thing as saying 41/100.

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You should have tried to learn at school