So resetting's against the rules now?

Glad this is brought to attention. Tired of loosing credit for a linkshell thats on its way and tells somebody to reset it so they can all get credit.

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Honestly, I think resetting in an effort to help is a little misguided. You may help the people that didn't get to the mark on time, but what of the people that were already fighting it?

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In the grand scheme of things, resets help far more people than they harm. But I do see where you're coming from.

There's no absolute "right" or "wrong" either way. It's all situational, just like what makes a pull "early."

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

Honestly, I think resetting in an effort to help is a little misguided. You may help the people that didn't get to the mark on time, but what of the people that were already fighting it?

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Mmmhm. This I can see as a good point - usually if someone's there from the start, it means if they have the 8 people they need to be able to get maximum contribution they will. But even so, I don't think I've ever seen a case where I lost contribution due to a reset (Or rather, my team was able to maintain it) but in a smaller party, it could definitely be such a rough situation.

I'll probably stop resetting from here on out. It's better not to put your own self at risk to help others. 'Can only help others once you can help yourself', right?

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Originally Posted by kidvideo

So if I run through, say, the Sylphlands on my choco & something agros me... my egi stops to deal with it but I keep going. Egi withdraws & the mob goes back to doing what it was doing. Is that resetting? Will the Touched Ones report this one for harassment?

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I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here. "Resetting" refers to attacking a mob and generating a large amount of burst aggro, then deliberately retreating so the monster follows you past its "leash" distance. When this happens the monster runs back to its starting point, becomes temporarily invulnerable, and once it reaches its starting point it recovers to 100% HP. If it's a hunt mark or a FATE monster, any contribution points are also reset at this time.

I got another question. Even if ppl reset I have always got full reward. I dont know how you get less marks if you just keep fighting it after the reset. Even if Ive waited for 10 min and someone resets it I dont mind. It just means that ppl on their way gets a chance to get credit too. And no one seems upset about resets on my server.
Nobody gets angry about early pulls either.
The only way I know to get less reward is if you arent in a group with at least 6 ppl. And well hunting was meant for parties so its kinda your own fault that youre trying to get full points solo.

Just my opinion

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Originally Posted by Brine_Gildchaff

I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt here. "Resetting" refers to attacking a mob and generating a large amount of burst aggro, then deliberately retreating so the monster follows you past its "leash" distance. When this happens the monster runs back to its starting point, becomes temporarily invulnerable, and once it reaches its starting point it recovers to 100% HP. If it's a hunt mark or a FATE monster, any contribution points are also reset at this time.

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Aye. I don't think anyone would fault you for resetting in that case. Especially considering an A-rank could probably demolish a single player if they're undergeared to some of us 100+'s running around.

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

That's... going a little far. I don't think everyone that resets a hunt mob does it because they're greedy. I think some people genuinely think that they're helping.

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Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

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This implies your reason for pulling was motivated by a singular person, one who's only purpose was fufillment of the self. This is not the case, in any scenario. :P

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Originally Posted by Mcshiggs

Read the entire sentence, I said even if you aren't the greedy one, you are doing it to help the greedy one, so the reset was still caused by greed, even if it's not the greed of the one that reset it, the reason ultimately behind it was so the greedy person that thinks they deserve credit on everything that spawns in the world could get there for credit.

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I did read it. That doesn't change the fact that throwing the term "douchebag" at people that are making an effort (albeit slightly misguided) to help people make it to the mark is going a little far. o.o

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

The only way I know to get less reward is if you arent in a group with at least 6 ppl. And well hunting was meant for parties so its kinda your own fault that youre trying to get full points solo.

Just my opinion

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B ranks are light party content. A and S are full party content, but who's to say that two people didn't just drop from your party cause their moms called them to dinner or they had work/class? It's not always easy to find replacements before the mob dies so that everyone in your party can get full credit. Even if you DO have a full party, if there are enough people at a mark (especially those with larger models) you run into rendering issues where members of your party may not even be able to see the mob.

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Originally Posted by Kiara1

The only way I know to get less reward is if you arent in a group with at least 6 ppl. And well hunting was meant for parties so its kinda your own fault that youre trying to get full points solo.

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Except B ranks were intended to be solo. And no, the change to the HP was not to make it party content.

The other thing is that the more people who are there, the less chance any given person or group can get full credit. Just by nature of how the system works and how quickly people can zerg these things down. People choose to ignore this often. They also choose to ignore that some people who aren't in groups but TRY to join one get ignored and left out.

The zerg on many servers is not the friendly thing many people make it out to be.