nerfed mages and screwed enmity o_o

I can't tell you how many times today I was on the verge of death because the mobs were totally ignoring provokes and taunts the tank was doing. Even then, right when the mobs would appear, they go straight to me and my weapon isn't even drawn out.

On curing spells, I do think they could be reduced a little bit on the mp side. I mean I use Spiritbind again but as soon as I use it, it's like a level 50 provoke. Siphon MP is nice and all but you can't AoE it anymore... sighs...

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Originally Posted by Kurai

Ok where do i start.

well I have been playing this game since closed Beta and apart from the obvious faults I have been a happy gamer up until last week.

The main reason for my upset are the mage class changes. I spent alot of time ranking up conj and thaum and enjoyed playing both very much, thats untill 1.18 went live.

Thaumaturge has no AoE? thats just stupid, I got to rank 50 to find out a few weeks later that it is a job I will never use again :mad:

Conjurer: sure it feel a bit more like a white mage now, but MP cost for cure spells are all wrong I tell you!! either we need more MP or the spells need to cost half what they do now. i like the addition of rebirth and raise II but what was wrong with AoE cure 1 2 and 3? they worked perfectly fine.

Now Curaga spells, it would seem that if I even think about casting it I draw hate from the tank and get eaten by a mob, enmity needs to be looked at also,

I have spent alot of my time on this game and it a shame to see it a big step backward, I thought 1.18 would slove alot of issues and I know it has, but it has also created a few big problems that need to be fixed.

I hope someone from SE reads this

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I feel your pain.

MAGE STRIKE 2011.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

The game worked just fine pre-1.18. Sure everything was easy as hell, but it worked!

Y u change it SE?

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Says a non-mage. Get stuffed.

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Originally Posted by Koffee

Slightly misleading OP statement. Some THM spells had aoe removed (sacrifice/siphon), not all. You can stil aoe dd and debuff spells. THM is now a weaker healer than CON, which I guess is a response to demand for class specialization. Tho, out of all the QQ on the forums, I do think broken enmity is pretty valid. I do hope this is just a temporary measure til later patches are introduced and not permanent.

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yes i agree slightly missleading. but lets face it what were the main spells used as thaum when in an NM party, the answer, siphon and sacrifice..
so what if styg spikes is still AoE that buff should only apply to the tank anyways!!

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Stygian Spikes was not used I sespect? It has a very highly underated usefullness.

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I always use stygian spikes too, but it does no good if monsters dont hit you with NORMAL melee attacks, or dont hit you at all since enmity is hard to hold, and it does no good if the Ogre boss uses TP moves far more than melee moves, since still we dont get MP increases from anything but normal melee auto-attacks. Running out of MP is still easy.

Did a bunch of leves and grinding earlier with some friends. Tank runs in, voke, disorient and a few other moves, he gets to half health, I cast sacrifice 1 and guess who has the blinking icon?

Yea I died so much due to a cure or sacrifice pulling hate no matter what tank does

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Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon

Did a bunch of leves and grinding earlier with some friends. Tank runs in, voke, disorient and a few other moves, he gets to half health, I cast sacrifice 1 and guess who has the blinking icon?

Yea I died so much due to a cure or sacrifice pulling hate no matter what tank does

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This times 1mil. This is a major issue. Hopefully if they have a 1.18a patch they will address this. And hopefully the com reps are reading this stuff.

Why are they bein all silent.... after every patch! lol

Learn how to play. This is the answer.

My 2 cents...

I'm in total agreement. Enmity is so much more broken than before. Tanks now need to have so many sub-classes ranked up high to be able to hold hate and that's just wrong. I tried using Taunt II, Provoke II, War Drum & Warmonger on the ogre at the start of battle and I still wasn't able to acquire hate, so I've hung up my sword and shield until this gets fixed. I refuse to tank with skills that don't work as intended. A Gladiator should not just be a heavy armoured healer.

I feel sorry for anyone trying to start the game now, especially if they're ranking up with a friend where one is GLA and one is CON. There's absolutely no chance of a GLA holding hate from a CON in the lower ranks. I guess that's just SE's idea of defining class roles.

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Originally Posted by Reika

This times 1mil. This is a major issue. Hopefully if they have a 1.18a patch they will address this. And hopefully the com reps are reading this stuff.

Why are they bein all silent.... after every patch! lol

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If you have a typo to fix you'll get a dev response quick.

And popdai, this isn't a strategy issue. This is a game balance issue - MP cost should be 1/3 to 1/2 of what it is now, and hate should not generate more from 1 Cure or Sacrifice than a combo of Provoke, Disorient, etc. Otherwise you're just going to get a bunch of GLAs casting cure on anyone, no matter their health, just to hold hate. And even then they're limited due to the MP cost, so you get about 3-4 total.

Has anyone tried using Provoke, Taunt, and etc after the mage steals enmity, maybe you're not supposed to use all your enmity generating moves at the beginning of a fight now.