Viera and Hrothgar Megathread

I've been taking a break for a few weeks. Where are we at, buns and kitties?

Assuming it is bad.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I've been taking a break for a few weeks. Where are we at, buns and kitties?

Assuming it is bad.

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There was an interview in german where they basically said they were working on how to implement new hairstyles for the new races and that he hopes he would be able to give us good news soon so we need to have a bit more patience. With hats it was basically that they dont like clipping and therefor wont allow to just show hats until they figure something out.

Basically just wait. More. Hopefully not two more years.

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

I've been taking a break for a few weeks. Where are we at, buns and kitties?

Assuming it is bad.

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Here's the relevant translated text of the interview LuciaMirain mentioned so make of that what you will.

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I have another very specific question. You announced the male Viera at the Fan Fest. Many players still wish they could use more hairstyles and headgear for the Viera and Hrothgar. Can we perhaps hope for improvements here with the introduction of the male Viera?

Yoshi-P: First of all, I would like to talk about the most important points why Viera and Hrothgar have not yet been able to wear the headgear. We have some standardized specifications when it comes to headgear. Due to the unique design, for example the Viera with the long ears, these specifications do not always fit here and cannot always be applied. If players didn't mind if there were some graphical issues here and there then that would be fine, but if they are very visual it will not work with the standard specs that the we currently have in the game. So it is due to the fact that Hrothgar and Viera have a unique design, especially when it comes to the head. Perhaps it should be seen less from the perspective that they simply have fewer hairstyles and headgear than other races, but rather that it is not possible for them to wear them.

However, we are of course aware of the requests from the players and we are not the type of team that gives its players the cold shoulder and ignores their wishes. There have been points in the past that we thought impossible at first, but which we were then able to make possible. In this case in particular, over the past six months we have repeatedly thought about how we can reduce development costs or what options we have to implement all hairstyles. In between working on the updates, we always take the time to think about these things and weigh the possibilities. We even have regular meetings on this. I was in a meeting yesterday exactly because of that, and the next one is already planned for next week. So the players can be sure that we are concerned about this, but I would ask that they show a little patience and wait a little longer. Hopefully we have good news to announce soon.

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If I Fantasia to a cat for like a week so that I can wear a fancy hat, will I be kicked out of the bunny den?

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Originally Posted by SkyCake

If I Fantasia to a cat for like a week so that I can wear a fancy hat, will I be kicked out of the bunny den?

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Nah I went au ra for like 3 weeks to scratch the itch. Go for it <3

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Originally Posted by SkyCake

If I Fantasia to a cat for like a week so that I can wear a fancy hat, will I be kicked out of the bunny den?

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I fantasia every other day, apparently... though, I think I was 'kicked out' a long time ago.

Thanks, you two! Don't want to lose my Bunny Den membership right before we get bunny bfs. But, I want to play an RDM for a little bit and get a fancy glam, so I'll need hat options. Can't play RDM without a big fancy hat. At least I can't.

https://i.imgur.com/TKDoPRj.jpg

I want to wear different hairs and headgear so badly, but not as much as I love being Viera. It’s sad because for me it feels like there’s no way to scratch the itch; I just have to wait for it to be healed.

Sometimes I feel like I should put on a very Palpatine type voice, "Modding is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural."

Yes, this is the official forums; yes, there's a general stance on modding.. but frankly, it's all we've got after the latest reveals that they're only just starting to have meetings about how to fix viera.

Glam up your RDM bun with big red hats, put on hairstyles that aren't the same 5 or so poofy viera styles, and continue to keep our voices heard here that we want an official solution.

Yeah, but they get 20 dollars for the fantasias spent each time you switch back and forth.

Console users don’t have this option, unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by SkyCake

Thanks, you two! Don't want to lose my Bunny Den membership right before we get bunny bfs. But, I want to play an RDM for a little bit and get a fancy glam, so I'll need hat options. Can't play RDM without a big fancy hat. At least I can't.

https://i.imgur.com/TKDoPRj.jpg

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I want that hairstyle on female Viera so bad, with a bangs/no bangs option.

i've been thinking maybe if there were enough viera/hrothgar players in the game se will make it a top priority , maybe we should make more viera and hrothgar alts so SE will notice us.
as very few Japanese players choose these races from what i can see .

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

I often wonder about this myself. If I play viera despite the limitations will they think I’m ok with them, that it doesn’t bother me or most people? If I play another race then does it tell them I’m unhappy or convince them that viera are only a small part of the playerbase so they aren’t as important. How is the viera population interpreted by the developers? I won’t unsub because I own a house so that isn’t a way to express my frustration. Sometimes I take breaks and only log in to keep my home. Is that still considered an active character?

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Yeah, this is kind of how I feel at times. I LOVE Hrothgar. I really do. But what does me playing one tell the devs? I'm certainly not okay with their severe lack of options. They aren't very open about this subject. I really do wish I knew what their data says.

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Originally Posted by Moonsprite

I often wonder about this myself. If I play viera despite the limitations will they think I’m ok with them, that it doesn’t bother me or most people? If I play another race then does it tell them I’m unhappy or convince them that viera are only a small part of the playerbase so they aren’t as important. How is the viera population interpreted by the developers? I won’t unsub because I own a house so that isn’t a way to express my frustration. Sometimes I take breaks and only log in to keep my home. Is that still considered an active character?

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The only idea i have in my case is : if i switch to viera and switch back because of the limitations, i'm not doing it again until the limitations are gone.
Same for housing: if i'm loosing my ishgard house at one point (if i get one lol), i'm not buying again. It's fun to have a house but also useless, so not huge loss for me.
If you play an alt unlike me (and use it often), it works too and it will be easier to deal with the limitation imo x) but again : switching to another race is not an option.

The only thing i can do after is show that i tried and explain why i won't do it again if nothing is done.
Even if i don't try it because of the limitations, i'll expalin why aniway and upvote others.
Patience is key.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, this is kind of how I feel at times. I LOVE Hrothgar. I really do. But what does me playing one tell the devs? I'm certainly not okay with their severe lack of options. They aren't very open about this subject. I really do wish I knew what their data says.

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They seem to be quite aware about the viera hair situation, judging by tone during interviews. Now, I don't know about the hrothgar situation, because they don't really ever mention them as far as I am aware... I just think they quite content with the way things are, and they will simply get around to it, when they get around to it. In the meantime, people will continue to fantasia back and forth off their viera, and unless these players actually stopped playing the game en masse due to this specifically , I don't see how doing so is anything but a benefit for them. Most people aren't actually quitting the game over this, just the usual breaks in between patches. Just consider switching back to their miqo'te or whatever at worst, and poking SE, like "hey what about hairstyles". I don't see how a any of this is a real problem for SE.

If they are just now in the planning stages for hairstyles, over the past two years was "viera hair" like just written on a post-it note on their breakroom fridge? When did they start work on male viera, or actually plan to add them? .

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

Yeah, this is kind of how I feel at times. I LOVE Hrothgar. I really do. But what does me playing one tell the devs? I'm certainly not okay with their severe lack of options. They aren't very open about this subject. I really do wish I knew what their data says.

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I know it's an exaggeration but I also often think about that, and why I have a sense of guilt whenever I consider Fantasia back to Roe (alt is a Hroth too)

Races are rather popular - clearly there's nothing wrong with them so there's no need/hurry to 'fix' anything
Races are rather unpopular - clearly it's not worth the effort to improve something nobody plays so there's no need/hurry to 'fix' anything

It feels like the same result regardless

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKcJlBfWwAAE8uH.jpg

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Originally Posted by lalin

i've been thinking maybe if there were enough viera/hrothgar players in the game se will make it a top priority , maybe we should make more viera and hrothgar alts so SE will notice us.
as very few Japanese players choose these races from what i can see .

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I don't think they look at it that way -or at least I hope they don't- because it would be circular reasoning. A lot of people don't want to play the races because of the limitations, so to look at the population as an incentive to address it wouldn't make a ton of sense.

That said though, there's a possibility they might be further along than they're letting on. In the months leading up to Fan Fest he started answering questions about male Viera and female Hrothgar again and reiterated their original stance hadn't changed and the difficulties and time, cost, etc. preventing them from doing so. So the topic was back in conversation and back on people's minds and so the surprise was even bigger when they revealed male viera was pretty much finished and female hrothgar would be on the way at an unspecified point.

Now this is all tinfoil-hattery and based on nothing, but I think it's possible there's a reason they chose to finally give a more detailed answer now and pretty much follow the same pattern of bringing it back into conversation and reiterating how much work it is and yada yada, because when they do finally reveal something everyone wins. We're happy because we finally get what we've been asking for (even if it was long overdue), and they themselves look good to the rest of the community because 'Look how much work they did despite saying how hard it would be? Amazing!'.

Bumping this because third page!! But yeah, Ive been doing alot of glamours lately out of boredom inbetween progging stuff and I feel we really need some nice bobs. I love long hair but when there is like one option of short hair (that I dont really like) it makes it less fun to play around with different styles. Yesterday I did this https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/g...edic-and-omega and man wouldnt Yshtolas hair or styled for hire have looked great with it? Ive paid for Yshtolas hair when I was au ra and now it just sits there unused bc my viera cant wear it. :(

So I have some concerns regarding the interview posted... And it seems even Yoshi P is not missing the point per say- but maybe over shooting the ask.
Whether lost in translation or interpretation: Please see RED

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I have another very specific question. You announced the male Viera at the Fan Fest. Many players still wish they could use more hairstyles and headgear for the Viera and Hrothgar. Can we perhaps hope for improvements here with the introduction of the male Viera?

Yoshi-P: First of all, I would like to talk about the most important points why Viera and Hrothgar have not yet been able to wear the headgear. We have some standardized specifications when it comes to headgear. Due to the unique design, for example the Viera with the long ears, these specifications do not always fit here and cannot always be applied. If players didn't mind if there were some graphical issues here and there then that would be fine, but if they are very visual it will not work with the standard specs that the we currently have in the game. So it is due to the fact that Hrothgar and Viera have a unique design, especially when it comes to the head. Perhaps it should be seen less from the perspective that they simply have fewer hairstyles and headgear than other races, but rather that it is not possible for them to wear them.

However, we are of course aware of the requests from the players and we are not the type of team that gives its players the cold shoulder and ignores their wishes. There have been points in the past that we thought impossible at first, but which we were then able to make possible. In this case in particular, over the past six months we have repeatedly thought about how we can reduce development costs or what options we have to implement all hairstyles. In between working on the updates, we always take the time to think about these things and weigh the possibilities. We even have regular meetings on this. I was in a meeting yesterday exactly because of that, and the next one is already planned for next week. So the players can be sure that we are concerned about this, but I would ask that they show a little patience and wait a little longer. Hopefully we have good news to announce soon.

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I feel the focus is on the fact that we want all the hair styles, and all the hats- which while nice and a pipe dream- isn't exactly what we have been asking for. We've really only been asking for hairstyles that are either the race specific promised to Veira and Hrothgar- or that the new released hairstyles that have come out with the new expansion be useable or modified for them.

I apologize if I seem off base ( but I say this as I have a career in development- before I get a you know nothing Forum poster snow)….but if we have been waiting 2+ years because they have been trying to figure out cost and how to do all hair styles...Pretty sure it would have saved time, money, and headache to just instead implement a couple unique hairs here and there.

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Originally Posted by Abaigeal

So I have some concerns regarding the interview posted... And it seems even Yoshi P is not missing the point per say- but maybe over shooting the ask.
Whether lost in translation or interpretation

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To me, it feels like a non-answer. Like almost an answer, but also not really an answer. I mean I think I can understand not wanting to get player's hopes up, but it just is angering. I know the dev team works hard and cares about the game. But all we want to for the new stuff to be used by Viera and Hrothgar. There are older things I'd love to use, but I'm more focused on the new things coming out and consistently not being usable by both Viera and Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by tehneyrzomb

To me, it feels like a non-answer. Like almost an answer, but also not really an answer. I mean I think I can understand not wanting to get player's hopes up, but it just is angering. I know the dev team works hard and cares about the game. But all we want to for the new stuff to be used by Viera and Hrothgar. There are older things I'd love to use, but I'm more focused on the new things coming out and consistently not being usable by both Viera and Hrothgar.

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The new things being tied to content as an incentive to do it is what irks me. What is the point of running bozja for the hair when I cant use it? sure I can sell it, but....I want to use it and it is a big incentive for alot of people to get the hair to use it.

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Originally Posted by Abaigeal

So I have some concerns regarding the interview posted... And it seems even Yoshi P is not missing the point per say- but maybe over shooting the ask.
Whether lost in translation or interpretation: Please see RED



I feel the focus is on the fact that we want all the hair styles, and all the hats- which while nice and a pipe dream- isn't exactly what we have been asking for. We've really only been asking for hairstyles that are either the race specific promised to Veira and Hrothgar- or that the new released hairstyles that have come out with the new expansion be useable or modified for them.

I apologize if I seem off base ( but I say this as I have a career in development- before I get a you know nothing Forum poster snow)….but if we have been waiting 2+ years because they have been trying to figure out cost and how to do all hair styles...Pretty sure it would have saved time, money, and headache to just instead implement a couple unique hairs here and there.

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Also I just dont believe them that it is this huge thing to implement hairstyles for vieras. Hrothgars? Sure I can believe that. But vieras? How difficult would it be to give female viera, the males hairstyles, really? I am hoping that male vieras are coming that female vieras are released from being paired with hrothgars in the development department. I sincerely do hope that Hrothgars get something too.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

The new things being tied to content as an incentive to do it is what irks me. What is the point of running bozja for the hair when I cant use it? sure I can sell it, but....I want to use it and it is a big incentive for alot of people to get the hair to use it.

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I've stopped rushing to do content because of this to be completely honest. In Stormblood, a new holiday or content dropped and I'd be on it like a fly on shit. I'd have all new glam sets planned out for my Au'Ra and was always really excited. Now, I just barely finish holidays on the last few days (or hours) and I'm not jumping at doing Bozja.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

How difficult would it be to give female viera, the males hairstyles, really?

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I guess I'll go against the grain and say I hope they don't that and focus on bringing the modern aesthetics over instead.

Every race/gender combination has their own set of exclusive styles and it would only serve to cheapen viera further to pawn off the male hairstyles to the females and the female styles to the males.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

I guess I'll go against the grain and say I hope they don't that and focus on bringing the modern aesthetics over instead.

Every race/gender combination has their own set of exclusive styles and it would only serve to cheapen viera further to pawn off the male hairstyles to the females and the female styles to the males.

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i agree. i‘m pretty sure if m and f viera would share all hairstyles and they would implement racial hairstyles for both of the genders, they probably would go the lazy rout and just add unisex hairstyles for both of them. unisex hairstyles in my opinion most of the time seem to be more on the feminine side, people who prefer to play male characters often sit at the shorter end of the lever...

I'm honestly disgusted that after ALL this time, vieras and hrothgars didn't get any new hairstyles, that SE hasn't updated gear to fit their heads either.
Instead what does SE do? Go and spends money and time creating extra race that will come as unfinished as these two.
New hairstyles being released, just not for those two races. And why not? Cause not enough people make angry noises cause not enough people play them, so SE ignores them.
Anyone know how can I get money back I spent on Yshtola hairstyle that I can't use?

Oooooh boy, who's ready to be more upset?

This article was released 3 hours ago. "FFXIV Male Viera Made in ‘Free Time’ Between ‘Normal Work on Patches’"

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They spent over half a year using what free time they had in between their normal work on the patches to consider ways to add another playable race. From this they concluded that we could probably squeeze in just one more at this time.

Adding a playable race does not end with just the initial resources needed to create the race (i.e. character modeling; preparations for variations in facial features, hairstyles and head shapes; animations that are unique to each race, etc.). Even following initial implementation, the tasks required with each patch update will multiply. For example, when we implemented the Viera, because their ears are very long, we needed to add a new review flow to check how Viera characters would appear on screen in all cutscenes. Of course, gear you can obtain as you play through the game will also need to be fitted to match the body shapes of the Viera and Hrothgar, and whenever we add emote animations, there will always be two additional sets to consider compared to what we had to do up until this point. This is something that we as a development team need to put effort into, but if these tasks multiply too much, it could cause critical damage to the interval between major updates.

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I am just kinda baffled here. Honestly and truly baffled. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad male Vieras (and later female Hrothgars) will be implemented into the game but ooooh boy. The previous problems current players of these races should've been addressed. I appreciate the dev team working hard to add male Vieras, but why was the time not spent on letting us use the new hairstyles and hats? Why is this all being so nonchalantly not addressed properly?

Also, just another thought to add to all of this that I've recalled.

If they can implement Yoko Taro's booty legs set AND fix the clipping issue with it, why can't we have headgear and hairstyles for Viera and Hrothgar? I'm pretty pissed off right now after these two recent articles.

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Originally Posted by tehneyrzomb

Also, just another thought to add to all of this that I've recalled.

If they can implement Yoko Taro's booty legs set AND fix the clipping issue with it, why can't we have headgear and hairstyles for Viera and Hrothgar? I'm pretty pissed off right now after these two recent articles.

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Don't get too worked up about it, he rarely volunteers information unless asked specifically and clearly about a topic.

He kept repeating they didn't have the resources to do male Viera or female Hrothgar the entire time, long past the point where they would've already been working on or maybe even finished male Viera. It's entirely possible they're further along on the hairstyle issue than he's letting on right now.

It's a bit annoying everything has to be kept quiet to be a surprise reveal later down the line but it is what it is.

"Of course, gear you can obtain as you play through the game will also need to be fitted to match the body shapes of the Viera and Hrothgar"

Hello, we're all aware Viera has the same body model as hyur and miqos, it's just scaled up. You gave viera so many animations that were copy and paste from Elezen. Not even viera hair is adjusted to look natural with viera ears, so I don't buy that it's a huge issue to adjust hair, I really don't. Though I must say, I'd never considered the work needed for cutscenes.

I get that it adds to the amount of work, and I've said that all along. But still, it's a massive kick in the teeth for players of Viera and Hrothgar to know for certian that they're increasing this amount of work with male viera, with absolutely nothing done to improve the issue of us being cut out of new content and rewards. They just say "keep waiting", but we're done waiting when you tell us that the problem will only be worse in the next expansion.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

I guess I'll go against the grain and say I hope they don't that and focus on bringing the modern aesthetics over instead.

Every race/gender combination has their own set of exclusive styles and it would only serve to cheapen viera further to pawn off the male hairstyles to the females and the female styles to the males.

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If they wanted to bring over modern aestheics they would have, as they were giving it to all other races and fixing it for miqote and au ra horns as well. They just won't. They said they would and then changed it pretty quickly and said viera would be getting race exclusive hairstyles. I rather have male viera hair than none at this point. I think we can maybe hope for the mogstation hair, since we paid for it and it just seems like bad company policy to give part of the playerbase 2/3 of payable content. And cheapen? They released two races halfassed. Viera came out cheapened to begin with.
(also Im not annoyed at you Im annoyed at having 8 hairstyles only after two years).

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Originally Posted by tehneyrzomb

Oooooh boy, who's ready to be more upset?

This article was released 3 hours ago. "FFXIV Male Viera Made in ‘Free Time’ Between ‘Normal Work on Patches’"



I am just kinda baffled here. Honestly and truly baffled. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad male Vieras (and later female Hrothgars) will be implemented into the game but ooooh boy. The previous problems current players of these races should've been addressed. I appreciate the dev team working hard to add male Vieras, but why was the time not spent on letting us use the new hairstyles and hats? Why is this all being so nonchalantly not addressed properly?

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You just proved my point with my previous comment. If they wanted to, they would have. But they were busy with male viera. ON THEIR FREE TIME. Im going to implode. I mean it is GREAT that bunnyboys and hrothgirls are coming but man they couldnt have waited a bit more? They couldve said "we will implement them in 7,5" or something and kept the buzz going? And then used that free time to fix what is currently broken? I am really hoping they actually upgraded femviera at the same time as they did this, because now it just seems like a plot to make more money and I can guarantee you it worked, suddenly limsa is full of vieras again when there were so few before. So many people will fantasia again back and forth. Then we will have 3 broken races.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

If they wanted to bring over modern aestheics they would have, as they were giving it to all other races and fixing it for miqote and au ra horns as well. They just won't. They said they would and then changed it pretty quickly and said viera would be getting race exclusive hairstyles. I rather have male viera hair than none at this point. I think we can maybe hope for the mogstation hair, since we paid for it and it just seems like bad company policy to give part of the playerbase 2/3 of payable content. And cheapen? They released two races halfassed. Viera came out cheapened to begin with.
(also Im not annoyed at you Im annoyed at having 8 hairstyles only after two years).

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I'm with you, I've been annoyed about it for 2 years as well. I do feel it would cheapen them even further though; limited headgear, limited hair, not even a unique hempen set, and then male viera hair too?

But if it's male viera hair or nothing at all I suppose that's better, but it wouldn't matter much to me because I won't stay a viera in that case.

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Originally Posted by Yencat

I'm with you, I've been annoyed about it for 2 years as well. I do feel it would cheapen them even further though; limited headgear, limited hair, not even a unique hempen set, and then male viera hair too?

But if it's male viera hair or nothing at all I suppose that's better, but it wouldn't matter much to me because I won't stay a viera in that case.

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That is actually true, we didnt even get our own hempen sets (Im hoping they just release them for all tbh but that is another thread). I dont think we will get the male viera hair either, tbh. Since the female hairs have flowers, pigtails and such and I dont think they want to move the female hairs over to the males....although tbf the latest hairs have been "unisex" for the other races so...miracles do happen.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

That is actually true, we didnt even get our own hempen sets (Im hoping they just release them for all tbh but that is another thread). I dont think we will get the male viera hair either, tbh. Since the female hairs have flowers, pigtails and such and I dont think they want to move the female hairs over to the males....although tbf the latest hairs have been "unisex" for the other races so...miracles do happen.

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We haven't seen all male hairstyles yet but I can see how a few of the ones we have seen could work better as unisex styles than most of the very obviously feminine styles female viera have would on male characters.

It's not even that I think the male styles look bad, but it would really be the final nail in the coffin to me that they're not even trying and it's time to move on and play a different race.

New info from a recent interview.

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Gamer Escape: Lots of players are excited for Male Viera. Some however are still wondering about the newer races’ (Viera and Hrothgar) lack of hairstyles, lack of visible head equipment, and, in the case of Hrothgar, needing a fantasia to change their existing hair styles. Are there any plans to level the playing field for Viera and Hrothgar players by making adjustments to those issues?

Naoki Yoshida: For both the Viera and Hrothgar, there were certain characteristics we wanted to emphasize in their design—the long ears of the Viera and beast-like features of the Hrothgar. Due to this, there was a limit to the range of customization, and we worked with these conditions when creating these races. If we wanted to make these features more customizable, we’d have to sacrifice those unique features, so it would be great if everyone could understand that at a fundamental level, it is not simply a matter of whether or not we make adjustments to accommodate this.

I have mentioned this on several occasions, but I understand why players request this—I really do. In an effort to accommodate this, even if just a little bit, we have continued to spend a lot of time assessing possible changes in structural design of the models, as well as potential additions to our current workflow. Even as I write this, I just met with the team to get an update on their testing status for this. We may not be able to get them to be exactly the same as the other playable races, but I hope to be able to give you some kind of update soon, including the status on the stubble for Hyur as you asked about previously, so your patience on the matter is greatly appreciated!

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https://gamerescape.com/2021/06/07/f...ctors-edition/

Sounds like they have been working on fixing the problem from its root instead of just trying to add more hairstyles.

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Originally Posted by Renik

New info from a recent interview.

https://gamerescape.com/2021/06/07/f...ctors-edition/

Sounds like they have been working on fixing the problem from its root instead of just trying to add more hairstyles.

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Huh, interesting. Thank you for posting that :)

Kind of a confusing answer though, it sounds like he always hones in on the headgear issue rather than hairstyles. Otherwise I don't see what the length of Viera ears has to do with anything?

I will say though I'm very surprised to see they're actually already testing changes in the structural design of the races, honestly didn't expect them to even consider doing that. That means there's some hope left alive for Hrothgar's Fantasia issue being solved as well.

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Originally Posted by Renik

New info from a recent interview.

Sounds like they have been working on fixing the problem from its root instead of just trying to add more hairstyles.

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He mentions how often it's requested. So that's fun. I like that they mentioned hyur stubble as well. I do hope we see a hair update sooner than later, and I also don't want to just see male viera hair ported over either.

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Originally Posted by LuciaMirain

That is actually true, we didnt even get our own hempen sets (Im hoping they just release them for all tbh but that is another thread). I dont think we will get the male viera hair either, tbh. Since the female hairs have flowers, pigtails and such and I dont think they want to move the female hairs over to the males....although tbf the latest hairs have been "unisex" for the other races so...miracles do happen.

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Feminine hair? Masculine hair? It's all just hair to me.

Anyway, i'd totally settle for the female ponytail for males considering how omnipresent those ludicrously massive collars are on clothing. Of course, the hair itself would probably clip into you character, but it is what it is. just gotta take what you can get i suppose.