fflogs and privacy

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Originally Posted by AmiableApkallu

In a world without heroin, syringes can continue to exist and be useful.

In a world without ACT-interacting-with-FFXIV, FF Logs decreases in usefulness to the point of might-as-well-not-existing. FF Logs owes its existence to ACT.



Sure. But that has nothing to do with a website deciding to anonymize by default information that it obtained, and could only obtain, via ToS-frowned-upon means.

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FFLogs owes its existence to WarcraftLogs. It's a syringe. You can put whatever you want in it.

It might not have anything to do with anonymising the data but it has everything to do with the asinine comment that I was replying to.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

You were.

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You quoted the post and it literally says "clear PF", are you even reading? How would I even join a cleared PF to get kicked in the first place without a clear anyway?

If you want to nail me for something, at least make sure you read properly first.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

FFLogs owes its existence to WarcraftLogs. It's a syringe. You can put whatever you want in it

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It’s pretty disingenuous to try to bend reality to fit your argument. Fflogs expects a certain format and it is far from just a battle log copied out. It is not a generic platform, it is ff14 specific. If you host and design your site around smth that is not legal - no matter if you are not obtaining it yourself - you are part of it. Like it or not. Try host and distribute pirated media and you will find out if you are syringe or have a copyright strike against you.

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Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind

It’s pretty disingenuous to try to bend reality to fit your argument. Fflogs expects a certain format and it is far from just a battle log copied out. It is not a generic platform, it is ff14 specific. If you host and design your site around smth that is not legal - no matter if you are not obtaining it yourself - you are part of it. Like it or not. Try host and distribute pirated media and you will find out if you are syringe or have a copyright strike against you.

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True enough, FFlogs uses telemetry data such as someone's map position to review replays from the logs and this is not obtainable by just looking at the Battle Log, so without ACT it wouldn't have the same functionality at all as Warcraftlogs (where logging is an option that is activated in Settings -> Network -> Advanced Logging, so within the game that doesn't need any addon). Now having said that, FFlogs has been around since 2015 and continually makes references to lodestone to upload a player's profile, so Square Enix has had plenty of time (10 years) to evaluate, and the site is still there so all this talk makes no sense. SE knows very well about logs and parse is fundamental in part of community, paying community like you and me and to think it will close tomorrow because you don't like it is simply unrealistic.

Just had this in Chaotic AR clear party, wiping to enrage. I should be able to find out this information as this is actively griefing players.


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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

Just had this in Chaotic AR clear party, wiping to enrage. I should be able to find out this information as this is actively griefing players.

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Hahaha Holy mother of god.. hahaha.

Still better than that tank I had in p10s one time that was only doing normal attacks. I mean I still appreciate the courage to join and try to do a savage. He became a legend and I will forever tell his tale..

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

Just had this in Chaotic AR clear party, wiping to enrage. I should be able to find out this information as this is actively griefing players.

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Holy Hydaelyn, what in the world is that barbaric massacre lmao

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Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust

OFC who thought about it, there is ESOLogs, WoWLogs, the same Site has something for so many MMOs and its accepted everywhere from the playerbase but ofc the Final Fantasy Player are crying yet again about it

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In ESOlogs the name are hidden and anonymous until the player register to the site and gives approval to make the name public.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

In ESOlogs the name are hidden and anonymous until the player register to the site and gives approval to make the name public.

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Now that made me curious. Is ESOlogs also held by the same people, and if so, why the change of mind?

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Originally Posted by Valence

Now that made me curious. Is ESOlogs also held by the same people, and if so, why the change of mind?

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I don't play ESO, so I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that ESOLogs works in an identical manner to FFLogs, i.e. you need to opt out to be hidden, but their damage meter is only able to capture info for players who are also using the damage meter. So you won't have logs if you don't run a damage meter yourself.