The Ifrit Fight is Dangerous to the Community.

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10-31-2011, 02:02 PM
NibelungValesti

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Player:"I say good sir, might I have a word? You see, your presence in our world is causing something of a panic, and we have theories that our moon may collide with out planet should you continue to absorb our aether. I have here a petition signed by citizens of all three free city-states asking that you kindly relocate to another dimension so that everyone can live on in peace."

Ifrit: "Oh, totally man. It's cool. Jeeze, I thought you wanted to fight me or something."

Player: "Good lord sir! Do you know what that would require? Skill aside, I might have to get abilities from other classes! And, Gods forbid, a competent party!"

Ifrit: "Mmm, yes. I see your point, verily."

Player: "Quite."

Best. Post. Ever.
10-31-2011, 02:02 PM
Treach

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I know Ifrit has certain stances to each weaponskill. The problem is being able to memorize them properly. I really do not have the mental clarity to accomplish memorization of the finer nuances of the Ifrit fight, and yet I would like to at least be able to beat him.

I used to be a hardcore player in other MMO's when I was younger. Those days are decidedly behind me, and I have no desire to really revisit those habits.

Do you have to listen to a tape telling you to breath in and out?
10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
BruceyBruceyBangBang

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I understand the idea of having content specifically for hardcore and casual players, but that would essentially divide the community. Not exactly something I want to see happening to FFXIV. :\

I know Ifrit has certain stances to each weaponskill. The problem is being able to memorize them properly. I really do not have the mental clarity to accomplish memorization of the finer nuances of the Ifrit fight, and yet I would like to at least be able to beat him.

I used to be a hardcore player in other MMO's when I was younger. Those days are decidedly behind me, and I have no desire to really revisit those habits.

Then I don't know what you want to happen. You either make content for casual or hardcore or both. There is a reason why these types of fights and events are separate. Difficulty cannot blend in with each other and when you do this, you will find a medium which results in dull execution and hardly any sense of accomplishment.

I don't see the divide. That is specific to the person. If the hard core player in question decides to segregate him/her self from the community based on accomplishments and/or content. That is their weakness and there is nothing that can remedy that. That is who they are and what they will show you regardless. This isn't a problem regarding hardcore content. This is a problem you have personally with someone that enjoys that content. Do not confuse the two.
10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
Forerunner

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Player:"I say good sir, might I have a word? You see, your presence in our world is causing something of a panic, and we have theories that our moon may collide with out planet should you continue to absorb our aether. I have here a petition signed by citizens of all three free city-states asking that you kindly relocate to another dimension so that everyone can live on in peace."

Ifrit: "Oh, totally man. It's cool. Jeeze, I thought you wanted to fight me or something."

Player: "Good lord sir! Do you know what that would require? Skill aside, I might have to get abilities from other classes! And, Gods forbid, a competent party!"

Ifrit: "Mmm, yes. I see your point, verily."

Player: "Quite."

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10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
BigThanatos

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I know Ifrit has certain stances to each weaponskill. The problem is being able to memorize them properly. I really do not have the mental clarity to accomplish memorization of the finer nuances of the Ifrit fight, and yet I would like to at least be able to beat him.

So you don't want to have to think during the fight to kill him, k got it.
10-31-2011, 02:04 PM
Viridiana

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Originally Posted by SilvertearRen

I know Ifrit has certain stances to each weaponskill. The problem is being able to memorize them properly. I really do not have the mental clarity to accomplish memorization of the finer nuances of the Ifrit fight, and yet I would like to at least be able to beat him.

You don't even need to memorize that. Being even half-way competent at seeing the attacks as they're happening should be enough to move out of the way. Seriously, just go in under the assumption that you're going to die repeatedly, and use it as a learning experience. Stop stressing out over a game. . .
10-31-2011, 02:05 PM
SilvertearRen

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

Aren't you the same person with the thread about your friends that find XIV too exciting and can't handle it or they'll have a nervous breakdown?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

The same person who thinks all endgame should have different levels of difficulty so those that aren't really dedicated to the game should be able to experience the same content as someone who puts a lot of effort into the game?

I suggested that the lower difficulty levels have a nerfed reward compared to the higher difficulty level, that is a fair tradeoff in my eyes. I don't see why you are complaining. I'll have some cheap, crappy cavalry haubergeon +1 while you get the +10 Ifrit Haubergeon of Glory.

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Originally Posted by Teuciont

Yeah, I thought so. This thread should honestly just be closed. It's a goal to work toward, that's the point of MMO's, I really don't see what your constant nagging across multiple threads is supposed to do.

Your resistance will only make me harder.
10-31-2011, 02:05 PM
Betelgeuzah

Granted, as far as other MMO's go this is hardly "hardcore" content. This is the easy mode to the hard mode in those games. It's not surprising, though, that the over-all skill level of a normal XIV player is lower than that of someone from those games, perhaps partly due to the braindead gameplay for the first half of the year.

The player penetration is just too high for this to be considered legitimately "hard". People clear it in 5mins and make it look like a joke. A true hard-mode would pack a punch regardless of how many times you've given it a try.
10-31-2011, 02:06 PM
SilvertearRen

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Originally Posted by BigThanatos

So you don't want to have to think during the fight to kill him, k got it.

Maybe I do want that. Because, I've spent 15 years thinking so much, I need a vacation.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Granted, as far as other MMO's go this is hardly "hardcore" content. This is the easy mode to the hard mode in those games. It's not surprising, though, that the over-all skill level of a normal XIV player is lower than that of someone from those games, perhaps partly due to the braindead gameplay for the first half of the year.

Whose responsibility was that?
10-31-2011, 02:07 PM
BruceyBruceyBangBang

Now guys, don't jump on the guy for having a problem with memorization. However, I will have to say... you only need to learn three different stances. Three. It isn't hard to remember even for a person with poor memorization.

You just are not trying. It's as simple as that.

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