#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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Originally Posted by Aravell

This is exactly why I use an alt as a display character.

People who stalk your profiles are those who realise they cannot challenge your stance so they stalk your stuff to try and pull authority over you and discredit your argument.

Having people out themselves in that way is one of the best reasons to use a display alt.

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Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help your agenda.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help your agenda.

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It doesn’t matter what we do

If we show off our pink ultimate clears people will call us out of touch high end raiders, if we show off we haven’t done savage, done it sporadically or parse poorly in it people will say we are casuals who should just play high end

There is no “right person” to be making this argument in the eyes of people like you

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

It doesn’t matter what we do

If we show off our pink ultimate clears people will call us out of touch high end raiders, if we show off we haven’t done savage, done it sporadically or parse poorly in it people will say we are casuals who should just play high end

There is no “right person” to be making this argument in the eyes of people like you

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That doesnt matter and once again you attack me, this is extremely toxic and vile and is back of fourth of constant bickering, there's no real ideas in this thread only one side attacking the other.

You healers attacking anyone who comes in disagreeing with you, you don't try and dicuss, you outright attack and of course there's there trolls coming in here mocking you but instead of ignoring them you engage and attack further.

I tried to make a consensus about 100 pages back now to see if I could get an inline idea of what everyone wants, I got 1 response that was honest and had reasons with what changes they would like to see, everyone else engaged the trolls and continued bickering.

You have all doomed your own post because if I was a dev coming in here trying to see the feedback I would just see players bickering and check out, I honestly dont blame the devs thus far for not acknowledging this.

SE gift to us :rolleyes:
https://i.imgur.com/KcWvtvT.png

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help you agenda.

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I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

I am someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

That doesnt matter and once again you attack me, this is extremely toxic and vile and is back of fourth of constant bickering, there's no real ideas in this thread only one side attacking the other.

You healers attacking anyone who comes in disagreeing with you, you don't try and dicuss, you outright attack and of course there's there trolls coming in here mocking you but instead of ignoring them you engage and attack further.

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I’m not attacking you I’m saying “who is the correct person to be arguing this” in your eyes

People have attacked Gemima for not doing savage, I’ve had my opinion on P10S try to be dismissed because I don’t have 10 logs on Andreas (again like aravell I use an alt for raids), but on the other hand people have also attacked people like Ty or forsaken for being too good at the game to have an opinion on this

Who is allowed to have an opinion on this, our logs shouldn’t matter, we are all healer mains and we are all sick of modern healers

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Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei

I'm going to be really honest and up front with you, and not in a confrontational way, just want to talk about my experience.

I someone who is doing exactly what you are saying. I am also a player who has been pretty critical of mostly tanks, but also healers and some other miscellaneous things SE has done.

Because I have not made any attempts to hide who I am, I have had players send me tells ingame and on discord telling me to kill myself, and worse, because all I do is "criticize the developers".

I don't blame anyone for using alts or taking measures to avoid harassment. This community has proven that the more fanatical types will go after people no problem.

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I understand this can happen but document the messages with screenshots, blacklist the person and send it to SE these people will get their accounts banned and rightfully so.

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Originally Posted by Kathryn

Cant say I agree with this, if you truly believe in something you will put all of yourself on the line and be open to any scrutinization, by hiding behind an alt you have no real agenda and you are showing you are scared of actual criticism.

Im not here to doompost but hiding behind an alt will not help your agenda.

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What agenda? I'm not playing healers in DT because I'm bored of them, what agenda do I even have?

Also, if you want to show yourself to the world, that's your prerogative, I don't.

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Originally Posted by Aravell

What agenda? I'm not playing healers in DT because I'm bored of them, what agenda do I even have?

Also, if you want to show yourself to the world, that's your prerogative, I don't.

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Thats fine, you are not open to criticism, you are scared of it so you hide behind an alt instead of showing your accomplishments that makes healers boring and are certainly not needed for all content, that's fine I now know for certain this thread isnt a serious one and I will leave you all to it, it got boring reading all the players attacking eachother instead of seeing a real discussion.

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Originally Posted by Eorzean_username

Man, come on, don't J Allen Brack me.

Yep, I'll play the "villain" on this topic — I want Cleric Stance back. No caveats, no buts. If the developers suddenly put Cleric Stance right back in the game, exactly as it was in ARR/HW, it would not bother me at all.

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I can't argue with nostalgia, but that's the only real value Cleric Stance had: nostalgia.

Imagine the simplest DPS rotation you can, and it's still more complex. Imagine a 1-2 combo. Imagine a gauge that builds resources not based on time, but on the GCDs pressed. Heck, imagine having Shillelagh from D&D and your auto-attacks becoming 20% of your DPS. Cleric Stance is the bottom of the barrel. I hope it never comes back. Current healers are more complex than past iterations, bury me haha. Strike because you want more, not because you want less.