Hildibrand for relic? Really?

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

I didnt say there werent "anime moments" but they were indeed darker themed, the main cast had consequences and didnt get everything handed to them so there was a proper balance between light hearted and darker and meaningful. Whereas now its heavily skewed towards fluff light hearted moments and the main cast always getting what they want with 0 consequences. But sure, denounce it as a fetish if thats what helps you understand these things. ?Yet you claim to not argue in bad faith in other threads lmao please.

Either way i would rather actually get a canon story that contributes to the world building and lore of the game rather than a series of comedy non-canon side quests that contribute very little to the story but....seeing as how fanserive and cute adorable moments gets everyone screaming and crying i guess thats the crowd theyre catering to now.

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Keep your personal gripe with me out of it. I said it SEEMS as if thats the case. Never called anyone wrong or stupid for it. I swear every chance you get you have to try and pin me on something and it's pathetic. I'll say again PUT ME ON IGNORE if youre so pressed my dude.

I don't think things are heavily skewed at all. In fact I'd like to find out how much of EW is serious and how much of EW is light. Like time wise. Just for curiosities sake. And it's so weird, cause when EW IS serious alot of you guys just call it "streamer/Twitter bait with no substance". There is no winning for the writing team with you guys it seems. The story can't have fun, can't let the characters rest, has to kill folks off etc. To be worth anything. Also you claim everything is handed to the scions...which is objectively false. Takes like these is why some folks come here and clown on you guys man.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

We have all of our weapons available on the First, where several of those nations and disciplines never existed at all.

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True! but then none of those have like...a purpose in the story and Thancred still got his gnb shit from Rostik, not some rando on the First.
Though that does beg the question of, "why werent relics on Norvrandt?". Im sure loads of people would have enjoyed a relic story about a different worlds culture.
(And frankly they shouldnt have done Bozja until they bothered to make a single female hrothgar model but whats done is done now theres a nation with no opposite sex of its native race on the Source).

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Originally Posted by XiRon

True! but then none of those have like...a purpose in the story and Thancred still got his gnb shit from Rostik, not some rando on the First.

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He got training from Rostik. All of the Scions aside from the WoL arrived on the First completely naked with no equipment. His gear would have to be made there. Then Tataru had replicas made when they all came back.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

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Except the writing team did win in Heavensward, the Doman Arc of Stormblood, and (specifically) the base Shadowbringers MSQ before things went off the rails in the patches. The Ultima Thule nonsense? That wasn't serious, that was something that no small amount of players saw through immediately and realized it would be a giant fakeout zone but every streamer that has gone through it ends up with "the feels!"

More and more people are agreeing with and waking up to the fact that Endwalker suffered from horrendous pacing for an expansion set against the literal apocalypse. However, more and more compromises are being made in favor of the meme-loving Hildibrand and haha catboy burger crowd while the rest of us who wanted a coherent story that respected itself at the bare minimum are being pushed further and further away, straight into the arms of whatever title manages to provide the experience we're looking for.

When FFXVI releases if this game is still in the state that it's in now in terms of its story and content, then why should I bother returning if other single player titles release in succession during the leadup to FFVII: Rebirth which won't be that far off from 7.0? Goodness help FFXIV if Dragon Age 4 manages to actually release, because then who knows how long I'll be absent for while I play that. Should I seriously bother going through another expansion of these job changes and new writing direction that goes directly against the kind of storytelling that made me fall in love with this game in Heavensward?

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I honestly don't know how I feel about the Hildibrand/Relic connection but I'm kind of sick of seeing Gerolt (and probably Rowena) being connected to the relics again. :B

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Guess we are going to use Greg to get iconic Final Fantasy weapons.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Keep your personal gripe with me out of it. I said it SEEMS as if thats the case. Never called anyone wrong or stupid for it. I swear every chance you get you have to try and pin me on something and it's pathetic. I'll say again PUT ME ON IGNORE if youre so pressed my dude.

I don't think things are heavily skewed at all. In fact I'd like to find out how much of EW is serious and how much of EW is light. Like time wise. Just for curiosities sake. And it's so weird, cause when EW IS serious alot of you guys just call it "streamer/Twitter bait with no substance". There is no winning for the writing team with you guys it seems. The story can't have fun, can't let the characters rest, has to kill folks off etc. To be worth anything. Also you claim everything is handed to the scions...which is objectively false. Takes like these is why some folks come here and clown on you guys man.

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It was completely irrelevant to even state. Why say it in the first place? I dont have a personal gripe with you i just find your hypocrisy funny. The only "serious moments" in EW are nameless or irrelevent npcs being kiilled off. Everything is handed to the scions. thancred even laments at the end of Ew that acocmplished averting a universe decimating apocalypse with not even a scratch to show for it. Theyre brought back to life over and over again and never have to actually suffer anything despite that being this expansions theme. Compare that to ARR or Hw where the main cast actually had to make long lasting sacrifices and faced consequences for their actions and had losses....you know, the theme song for this expansions? Loss and fire? Where the loss on the main cast side this expansion? As for the clowning....i dont think this community has the right to clown on anyone considering the community managers for this game are diaper wearing fetishists but i digress...

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

They need to try new things

-Tries New Things-

No Stop!

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How's Hildibrand something new though?
one of the complaints I see is exactly having to do stuff from 10 years ago so uh. I guess the new thing is tying relics to it, but then relics are known to be tied to old content to revitalize it.

Yeah I have it unlocked up to EW and I will just skip the quests as I do not care for Hildibrand at all, heck I may not even do the relic which is kind of a shame as relic is usually the piece of content I look forward to the most every expansion. I will say this is increasing my overall dislike of EW and how much it pushed "levity" in it's story. I will still probably find enjoyment in other content yes but man having the long grind associated with a quest chain I despise, yeah I would rather go try for finishing another Eureka relic while fighting against the overinflated NM health due to bunny fate bots or finally finish the ARR relic I gave up at book step.

i really don't get peoples fixation with wanting main characters to die... i get it, it would be "shocking", and yes there was a time with a lot more death on the good guys side than what we have now, but is it really so important to kill of part of the main cast ? lord of the rings doesn't kill of any main cast after halfway into the first book and even has gandalf "die" and come back even more powerfull than before and it's still considered one of the greatest fantasy epics of all time. Or for anime/manga fans take one piece which had 2 non flashback deaths for the first 1000 or so chapters. why on earth are people so obsessed with main character deaths as if this is the absolutely only way to get a compelling story ?

Everyone demanding seriousness in the game while almost the entire main story in EW was serious and they managed to stop a world ending bad guy, let the cast rest and just do what they planned to do, to just adventure.

Ya'll need to lighten up you're all miserable.