Predictions for job(s) in the next expansion?

I figure it's a reaper class or something to do with scythes/sickles to be a 'maiming' job.

So probably Beastmaster, Reaper, or Exorcist (and Exorcist is a big if depending on context if they don't want to mess with WoL using undead power). I wouldn't say Exorcist would be too far off actually, now that we're in the final chapter of the Zodiark vs Hydaelyn arc, we 'purge' all the evil. It kinda makes sense in a way? We get rid of all the bad stuff and thoroughly cleanse the world, bringing peace and letting the dead ones move on.

We have Dark Knight + Black Mage, and their counterparts would be Paladin and White Knight. We have Ninja which should be the stealthy shadowy magic melee job, but we don't have a counterpart to it - so I would assume exorcist would fit the role here quite nicely.

Who knows, Maybe Gosetsu will return with some relation to the Exorcist plotline with his pilgrimage and helps us set our path towards it.

Though I'm pretty sure it's goanna be Beastmaster, with the Island Sancturary update since they can implement the limited aspect of BST at the same time. Two birds with one stone.

Tomorrow is the day!

I really hope we get a bamboozle or a really epic reaper job.

Clues are way too obviously pointing towards the reaper. Can't help but telling ourselves there's something hiding behind it.

Reaper itself doesn't sounds like an epic job or "final fantasy job", most likely it'll be an original job if that's the case.

Though you know, 3 shirts of a dead guy. Elidibus has used 3 dead bodies in our knowledge... and his bossfight included only existing jobs (while foreshadowing endwalker through FFIV references) expect for himself. So ya knoooow

I have a good feeling its going to be reaper or beastmaster

Honestly, would need to define "Reaper" as an FF class first.
As for beastmaster, I think it can happen, but would be better represented as a limited job like Blue mage is. Can't really be a beastmaster if you have like...3 or 4 set beasts to use.

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

I figure it's a reaper class or something to do with scythes/sickles to be a 'maiming' job.

So probably Beastmaster, Reaper, or Exorcist (and Exorcist is a big if depending on context if they don't want to mess with WoL using undead power). I wouldn't say Exorcist would be too far off actually, now that we're in the final chapter of the Zodiark vs Hydaelyn arc, we 'purge' all the evil. It kinda makes sense in a way? We get rid of all the bad stuff and thoroughly cleanse the world, bringing peace and letting the dead ones move on.

We have Dark Knight + Black Mage, and their counterparts would be Paladin and White Knight. We have Ninja which should be the stealthy shadowy magic melee job, but we don't have a counterpart to it - so I would assume exorcist would fit the role here quite nicely.

Who knows, Maybe Gosetsu will return with some relation to the Exorcist plotline with his pilgrimage and helps us set our path towards it.

Though I'm pretty sure it's goanna be Beastmaster, with the Island Sancturary update since they can implement the limited aspect of BST at the same time. Two birds with one stone.

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There are Beastmasters we have run into in the game: Lyon rem Helsos, Hernais pyr Longus and Clarricie quo Priscus . They are neither tied to the Island Sanctuary nor are they armed with scythes. They are Garlean soldiers of the IVth Legion and they are armed with axes and shields.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

Honestly, would need to define "Reaper" as an FF class first.

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Which is why I don't think it will be "Reaper" precisely.
Something else, something like "Ravager" would work as an established FF 'role' (XIII and XII:RW) could still wield a scythe, and so it would still have that 'Reaper' aesthetic, without the lore.
Meanwhile Zenos being his own brand of "Ravager" would still have the Reaper imagery around him.

But, we only have 28 hours to wait now. So get your last minute guesses in.

I've already speculated in this thread-- I reckon the possibility still remains for the new job to be a VOID MAGE, VOID MASTER, VOID KNIGHT, VOID TEMPLAR-- or simply a TEMPLAR that uses Void based skills-- like a mage-knight. Why do I say "Void Mage" or "Void Templar" or "Void-Knight"?

First up-- "Void Mage". The info from the Save the Queen battle notes regarding the "mage-knights of Landis" still continues to remain a smoking gun for me. As mentioned within those notes, before the Garleans absorbed Landis --Noah Van Gabranth's original homeland-- one of their cities (Mannatheihwo) was home to a company of mage-knights.

Second guess-- "Void Templar". This was straight up deduced from the T-shirts that Yoshi wore during the Endwalker announcement-- we've all had this one analyzed a million times (and we might all still be wrong) but you all know the gist of it by now-- “The Filth and The Fury” words on his shirt which happens to be the docu-film on the Sex Pistols which was directed by Julien Temple. Temple → Templar?

Third guess-- was a job class resembling Ran'jit and his Scythe, which many people already speculated upon--(and to which I actually initially subscribed to)-- until I began to wonder about the context of how the origins of his job would fit into the lore for the Source. We dealt with him on the First-- and I liked his charcater a lot -- but I would grimace to see him as the quest giver for the new DPS job. Just doesn't feel right.

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Last guess-- "Void Knight". After the initial excitement of discovering the (scythe?) weapon beside Zenos' throne in the Endwalker trailer, I started thinking-- a scythe-welding "mage-knight" with Void skills might be a possibly. But why "Void" though? Here's why-- my deductions might seem silly but weirder things have happened:

Remember them? Our illustrious Mhachi mages from the Void Ark raids? According to the wonderful pages of my Eorzean Encylopaedia (pages 30 to 35) the lore explains that the Mhachi civilization evolved within the Yafaem Saltmoor which is just northwest of the Mor Dhona area-- and they were the originators of the voidmage job-class.

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For those of you who haven't completed the Tales of Mhachi --which I've always loved by the way (it's the Black Mage in me), spoilers are included below; thus, I've hidden them-- if you've completed the tale, go ahead and open...

• We have had in-depth stories related to all the 24-person raids except the Tales of Mhachi tale and their mysterious ark-- which I'm fervently hoping will be expanded upon in Endwalker.
• The Mhachi's war with Amdapor (the War of Magi) had unleashed extremely devastating consequences and led to the six umbral era by means of a massive flood.
• To escape the flood, the Mhachi decided to build a refuge in the skies, called Dun Scaithe and a massive Void Ark which would which they believed was their best method of surviving.
• They were confident in using their massive Ark as a means of sustaining their way of life while floating in the skies above (until the floods has subsided) and then use Dun Scaithe as their new base of rebuilding their civilization.
• One of their most prominent mages, High Voidmage Cessair -- who had actually been imprisoned because of her disapproval of the war with Amdapor-- was tasked with leading the new ark.
• She again expressed reluctance for the whole venture but accepted the task as a means to help save her people.
• As expected, her fears were eventually confirmed when the seals and wards on the ship gradually started to fray. Some of the voidsent escaped, started wreaking havoc on the ship and tried to free their queen.
• As a last ditch effort, Cessair and the fifty (or fifty-three?) void mages and knights on board sacrificed themselves to maintain the seals on the ark. Her familiar-- Cait Sith-- was tasked with keeping watch over the seals imprisoning the Queen and her voidsent within the Ark; a task he has faithfully maintained for over 1,500 years.

Now look at the Endwalker logo-- see that ship headed to the moon? Why the heck did it suddenly remind me of the Mhachi, their Ark and their Voidsent? Perhaps it is because the interior architecture of that tower in the trailer (with Fandaniel and Zenos) looked expressively very similar to the ones within the Void Ark raids.

Could it be that the new job will have something to do with them? Void wielding Knights perhaps?

A silly thought--- I know, I know.

I predict that after 6.0's story is done they're gonna use 6.x to work us towards the next story: dealing with the 13th.

Edit: oh shoot this is a board for job predictions.
Well now I feel silly.

Isn't void just darkness tho' ? That would kinda "just be" DPS dark knight. Like the dark knight dps spec of FFXI.

Given the number of people who keep demanding XI's scythe-wielding DRK as a 'DPS job', this seems like a likely pick. It fits especially well considering the fact that the one current maiming job is a heavy armored polearm user.

I would have expected Mystic Knight to show up (i.e. a melee job that weaves spells and physical attacks), but for the fact that there are way too many sword users already to make it a visually distinct weapon type. But if this Mantis Knight concept goes a similar route with a scythe, perhaps that's another option.

I'm also reminded of GW1's Dervish. Jump into packs of enemies, and whirl around with your scythe and spells.

Bonus points if they finally merge Skill Speed and Spell Speed into a single Haste stat. No need to punish jobs that use both weaponskills and spells.

Honestly you can always find new sword concepts.
Just dual swords that link into a double-blade like Gabranth.
Chinese type hook-swords
Two-handing paladin swords...

Even the scythe could ba scimitar attached to a casting staff for all we know, Bloodborne style.

With a lot of companies trying to appease to China, I am surprised that Ffxiv hasn't done anything yet. I predict next class will have a Chinese weapon.

That could be fun, there is quite a few fun ones.

Still think it is going to be a Garlean soldier class. You have a lot of death imagery and symbolism present in the Garlean army.

The army was created by a guy named Hades, after the Greek God of the Dead.

They field Reaper battle mechs and infantry regiments named Wolf Skulls, simply nicknamed the Skulls.

Their soldiers look like this, notice the skull faceplates on the helmets:

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They have a bunch of attacks that reference death and judgement such as Terminus Est and Crocea Mors.

We are heading to Garlemald and we tend to get classes out of where we are going story-wise.

Yoshida's shirt was the same color scheme as Gaius's outfits (red, black, white, gold and orange) and Gaius had a helmet with a skull faceplate:

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Gaius also spent the last couple of years hanging out with our group's new Sage and Dragoon along with showing off several new abilities and animations recently.

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Still think it is going to be a Garlean soldier class. You have a lot of death imagery and symbolism present in the Garlean army.

The army was created by a guy named Hades, after the Greek God of the Dead.

They field Reaper battle mechs and infantry regiments named Wolf Skulls, simply nicknamed the Skulls.

Their soldiers look like this, notice the skull faceplates on the helmets:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1h8TKeXk5eA/maxresdefault.jpg
http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2017/01/2...5289943400.jpg
https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...30JCIrCvww.png

They have a bunch of attacks that reference death and judgement such as Terminus Est and Crocea Mors.

We are heading to Garlemald and we tend to get classes out of where we are going story-wise.

Yoshida's shirt was the same color scheme as Gaius's outfits (red, black, white, gold and orange) and Gaius had a helmet with a skull faceplate:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...02/012/881/f8c
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/95...d13693032a.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/02...9899cb9dd5.png

Gaius also spent the last couple of years hanging out with our group's new Sage and Dragoon along with showing off several new abilities and animations recently.

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A neat theory, but Gaius would not be the teacher as that'd lock it behind MSQ. It's much more likely that if this is the case, Gaius is being a hint toward it. Kind of like Gosetsu was a hint toward Samurai.

We'd most likely get some garlean defector as the teacher. Maybe even someone defecting from the castrum in La Nocesca, as it's just kind of... existed for a while not really having much purpose? (Though it has some minor role in Coils of Bahamut doesn't it?)

The job would also work well due to the neutral Garlean Gunblade stance being so distinct, thus it fulfills the shillouette design that the art team is so obsessed with.

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Well, the fanfest have started.
Sooooooon.

It is the Reaper and has a transformation ability!

Well, congratulations to everybody who guessed right.:)

Honestly quite disappointed, but well speculation was fun. Have fun everyone who wanted reaper

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

Honestly quite disappointed, but well speculation was fun. Have fun everyone who wanted reaper

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I'm disappointed that the job weapon and name are so cliche, however the JoJo like stand they can summon could be interesting

Anyone who wanted to play a Ran'jit like job should be satisfied

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

Anyone who wanted to play a Ran'jit like job should be satisfied

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Hells yeah. We full Shin Megami Tensei/Persona now. Voidsent class is gonna be amazing.

That oversoul/trance mode looks hype.

Looks like the special edition will have the FF11 Death Scythe weapon that was used by FF11 Dark Knights.

It's literally DPS spec DRK.
Dark Arts makes a return as a Trance
Living Shadow has become a Persona/Stand
Hell, I expect pretty much whatever DRK lost going into ShB to be pretty much reworked to fit into RPR.

I'm disappointed honestly.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

It's literally DPS spec DRK.
Dark Arts makes a return as a Trance
Living Shadow has become a Persona/Stand
Hell, I expect pretty much whatever DRK lost going into ShB to be pretty much reworked to fit into RPR.

I'm disappointed honestly.

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That's pretty much what it is with Bloodborne armor and a class name taken from Guild Wars 2.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

It's literally DPS spec DRK.
Dark Arts makes a return as a Trance
Living Shadow has become a Persona/Stand
Hell, I expect pretty much whatever DRK lost going into ShB to be pretty much reworked to fit into RPR.

I'm disappointed honestly.

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How else were they going to bring back FF11 Dark Knight into FF14? :p

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

It's literally DPS spec DRK.
Dark Arts makes a return as a Trance
Living Shadow has become a Persona/Stand
Hell, I expect pretty much whatever DRK lost going into ShB to be pretty much reworked to fit into RPR.

I'm disappointed honestly.

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I really hope DRK will get some depth back. I love this job but I grew quite bored of it in ShB, despite some very cool additions like Edge/Flood of Shadow.
Same with RDM. I really, really hope they'll get a good gameplay update, those are the closest thing to Mystic Knight I can get for now :/

Though now, I don't want to hear anyone say "Mystic Knight can't be in game, it would be too similar to PLD/DRK/RDM" when we litteraly got FF11 DRK dps spec added.

Kind of feel cheated that it wears Maiming armor, it doesn't look like the AF set is particularly armored, some Ninja and Samurai stuff looked like they had more plate than this. So I definitely was expecting and actually armored class like Judge/Mystic Knight.
I mean, even it it's "transed up" mode it's wearing a robe, like come on xD

Well, time to speculate on 7.0 now guys !

I assume we'll get a new caster and then either a ranged dps or a tank.
God if it's a tank I'm not sure if I want it to be Mystic Knight :x it'd make it's gameplay so simple, and yet another sword class being a tank and not a dps. Please not that.

Alright so it was indeed reaper.

Contrary to many theories, it's not a Necromancer, not Azem's job or anything to do with the Ascians. High probability the lore will be tied to Mhach, Black mage tried to manipulate the void, apparently with some sort of success, which result could be Reaper?

It's also completely different from Ran'jit, the idea is there, a companion that feds on your aether but that's it.
I doubt Zenos would summon an avatar to feed on his Aether...? Wait, maybe Anima?

The job looks cool and is finally filling the "Void based job" without going into the Necromancer part, I'm probably just going to level it and that's it, but it remains a cool job.

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Alright so it was indeed reaper.

Contrary to many theories, it's not a Necromancer, not Azem's job or anything to do with the Ascians. High probability the lore will be tied to Mhach, Black mage tried to manipulate the void, apparently with some sort of success, which result could be Reaper?

It's also completely different from Ran'jit, the idea is there, a companion that feds on your aether but that's it.
I doubt Zenos would summon an avatar to feed on his Aether...? Wait, maybe Anima?

The job looks cool and is finally filling the "Void based job" without going into the Necromancer part, I'm probably just going to level it and that's it, but it remains a cool job.

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The Turquoise/Crimson colouring of the spell effects definitely reflects common voidsent palettes, especially Scathach /Diabolos. But there's also something kind of Hades-like about it too, with that claw, and the purple glyphs. I wonder is it's somehow an Amaurotine-Voidsent, if that's even a possibility.

I second the Anima thing too, that cross my mind. But it could also be a horror form the end of days similar to the First Doom.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

I really hope DRK will get some depth back. I love this job but I grew quite bored of it in ShB, despite some very cool additions like Edge/Flood of Shadow.
Same with RDM. I really, really hope they'll get a good gameplay update, those are the closest thing to Mystic Knight I can get for now :/

Though now, I don't want to hear anyone say "Mystic Knight can't be in game, it would be too similar to PLD/DRK/RDM" when we litteraly got FF11 DRK dps spec added.

Kind of feel cheated that it wears Maiming armor, it doesn't look like the AF set is particularly armored, some Ninja and Samurai stuff looked like they had more plate than this. So I definitely was expecting and actually armored class like Judge/Mystic Knight.
I mean, even it it's "transed up" mode it's wearing a robe, like come on xD

Well, time to speculate on 7.0 now guys !

I assume we'll get a new caster and then either a ranged dps or a tank.
God if it's a tank I'm not sure if I want it to be Mystic Knight :x it'd make it's gameplay so simple, and yet another sword class being a tank and not a dps. Please not that.

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Well one of the good parts about Reaper's introduction is that they are no longer restricted to introducing certain job concept to exclusively one Job role.

With Reaper being a alternative to Dark Knight for players who want to play a DPS role, they can introduce things such as Mystic Knight (hopefully a Tank Job since I always picture them more as a Tank job in FF14) and they can now even bring in Berserker as a DPS Job.

I still hope for a bit more unique designed jobs such as a Phantam Sword or weapon job which would be a interesting Range Magic user Job that focus on summoning Phantom swords and phantom clones that use phantom swords or other type of phantom weapons to attack their enemies from the distance. Of course they can just make it go full Royal Arms Job with it as a DoM Range DPS Job.

Still hoping one day they introduce a Mace or Hammer Tank job as well eventhough I will only level them for their job storyline and ahcievement. It is just something I felt should have been part of Tank Jobs since 2.0.

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Well one of the good parts about Reaper's introduction is that they are no longer restricted to introducing certain job concept to exclusively one Job role.

With Reaper being a alternative to Dark Knight for players who want to play a DPS role, they can introduce things such as Mystic Knight (hopefully a Tank Job since I always picture them more as a Tank job in FF14) and they can now even bring in Berserker as a DPS Job.

I still hope for a bit more unique designed jobs such as a Phantam Sword or weapon job which would be a interesting Range Magic user Job that focus on summoning Phantom swords and phantom clones that use phantom swords or other type of phantom weapons to attack their enemies from the distance. Of course they can just make it go full Royal Arms Job with it as a DoM Range DPS Job.

Still hoping one day they introduce a Mace or Hammer Tank job as well eventhough I will only level them for their job storyline and ahcievement. It is just something I felt should have been part of Tank Jobs since 2.0.

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No please, no Tank Mystic Knight D:
I love playing tank but damn am I tired of sword jobs being tanks. I also think DPS would be better to bring in a variety of phases or buffs with "En-"spells and thing like that. Tanks tend to be much simpler with their combos and stuff since they have to focus on reacting to the boss's attacks and patterns.

Looks forward to Rune Knight being a Tank based on magitek and using Runic mechanic for full magic absorb.

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Originally Posted by Kalaam

No please, no Tank Mystic Knight D:
I love playing tank but damn am I tired of sword jobs being tanks. I also think DPS would be better to bring in a variety of phases or buffs with "En-"spells and thing like that. Tanks tend to be much simpler with their combos and stuff since they have to focus on reacting to the boss's attacks and patterns.

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I'll echo this sentiment. Personally I'd prefer it if the name was Rune Fencer, but that's more because I'm okay with Runes being part of the aesthetic and want to tie the spells its using to some unique system. I'm also okay with it using Maces/Hammers as long as they're light weapons, as it pretty much has to slot into the Scouting role. Which also kind of fits for an 'energy blade' mechanic, assuming they were used for the hilt. For thematic inspiration I'd gesture at Golden Sun's Adepts, WoW's Enhancement Shaman, FFTA2's Gladiator, Elementalist, and Spellblade, Tactic Ogre's Rune Fencer/Valkyrie and Vartan, and of course, Mystic Knight in FFV and Rune Knight in FFXI.

To me, their mechanic could go a few ways, but I'll spitball them:

1) It could revolve around season flavored phases, which involve pairing two Alchemical Elements (Fire or Water with Wind or Earth) together to achieve a proc/gcd focused rotation, with Ice and Thunder acting as transition elements or would fit in with the occasional burst cooldown. Wind and Earth would dictate the GCD timer or swap between a GCD or oGCD focused phase while Fire/Water would probably work similarly to AF/UI, either manipulating MP or a gauge. Cause of this the job wouldn't have traditional combo branches in order to make room for this system to work.

2) If SE wanted to stick with positionals and combos (blegh), the focus could be akin to an expanded Sen system where your combo branches imbue your Rune Slots with specific Runes and can enhance them, before you later spend them on specific abilities at certain breakpoints, and otherwise try to dump them on filler actions. Using Slots will lock them out for a period so you have to pace your combos, but your filler actions will not lock them out. Positionals would work better under this system but Combo Branches would have to get more complicated (1 ->2A/2B -> 3A/3B) to accommodate filling in rune slots and empowering them. I'd expect certain elements to be directly tied to specific positionals in this system. This would also have to accommodate dropping combos and locked out runes, probably by making enhancement hits accelerate the timer of random locked out slots, and having most of the powerful spenders be oGCD.

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I'll echo this sentiment. Personally I'd prefer it if the name was Rune Fencer, but that's more because I'm okay with Runes being part of the aesthetic and want to tie the spells its using to some unique system. I'm also okay with it using Maces/Hammers as long as they're light weapons, as it pretty much has to slot into the Scouting role. Which also kind of fits for an 'energy blade' mechanic, assuming they were used for the hilt. For thematic inspiration I'd gesture at Golden Sun's Adepts, WoW's Enhancement Shaman, FFTA2's Gladiator, Elementalist, and Spellblade, Tactic Ogre's Rune Fencer/Valkyrie and Vartan, and of course, Mystic Knight in FFV and Rune Knight in FFXI.

To me, their mechanic could go a few ways, but I'll spitball them:

1) It could revolve around season flavored phases, which involve pairing two Alchemical Elements (Fire or Water with Wind or Earth) together to achieve a proc/gcd focused rotation, with Ice and Thunder acting as transition elements or would fit in with the occasional burst cooldown. Wind and Earth would dictate the GCD timer or swap between a GCD or oGCD focused phase while Fire/Water would probably work similarly to AF/UI, either manipulating MP or a gauge. Cause of this the job wouldn't have traditional combo branches in order to make room for this system to work.

2) If SE wanted to stick with positionals and combos (blegh), the focus could be akin to an expanded Sen system where your combo branches imbue your Rune Slots with specific Runes and can enhance them, before you later spend them on specific abilities at certain breakpoints, and otherwise try to dump them on filler actions. Using Slots will lock them out for a period so you have to pace your combos, but your filler actions will not lock them out. Positionals would work better under this system but Combo Branches would have to get more complicated (1 ->2A/2B -> 3A/3B) to accommodate filling in rune slots and empowering them. I'd expect certain elements to be directly tied to specific positionals in this system. This would also have to accommodate dropping combos and locked out runes, probably by making enhancement hits accelerate the timer of random locked out slots, and having most of the powerful spenders be oGCD.

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Yeah, Golden Sun bro !

Also yeah I thought it could borrow fomr Bard and Monk in a way, having more free flowing combos and different "elemental stances". Like, you cast "En-Firaga", which has a 2s cast time and for, say 45s your combos have different properties, access to different oGCD etc.

Someone say Golden Sun?

Golden Sun collab when ? :D
That'd be epic to get some weapons or armor sets from the games. They can cover basically every weapon type too.
Menardi Scythe for RPR, Saturos's sword into a gunblade, Sol Blade into DRK, Felix' sword for PLD, Acheron Axe for WAR, Ivan's staff for BLM and Mia's for WHM. The Sun Saga books for SMN and Glyph Codex for SCH... Apollo Canon for MCH xD

But we're getting sidetracked again

I still want a job that dual wields one handed axes.

I wonder what a Armiger Unleashed Job may play like in FF14.

Imagine if they made it a pure range attack DoM Job.