Samurai Discussion

Enjoying SAM after some time I am going to Main this Job since as I said in the past my original favorite Job/class is Sword DPS Job/class.

It a lot about patience when players get the Kenki Guage skills since you can spend it recklessly on any skill but the main key use for it is to save up Kenki for moments wen you can burst damage or when there is over 80 Kenki energy to spend.

I still have this feeling SE may expand on this aspect of Kenki in a future expansion such as a Muramasa Guage where when the Kenki reach 100 it turns into a Muramasa Guage where players must maintain it as it goes down to 0, thus turning back to Kenki Guage, by putting Kenki energy back into the Guage using combos while all combo skills and Kenki skills get some new animation effects and increase in potency as long the Muramasa Guage is maintained.

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Originally Posted by Clawbriar

I think a minor QoL fix for Samurai would be to have the Sen bonuses in the tooltips coloured to the Sen that you actually receive, so Getsu as blue, etc etc. Right now, they're all yellow.

http://i.imgur.com/wFXHVCH.jpg

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I got lucky and built my skills into a triangle like the 3 tsubas are in, helps a lot.

123 is my 10% damage combo
45 is where I put the other two pices for the other 3-combo
I put the slashing debuff skill above my 1

So that way it just so happened that each skill granting sen is in roughly the same place it appears in the tsuba triangle.

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Originally Posted by Furious

Not that I disagree with you, but it's impossible for a 50% buff to take a 400 max to mid 800s, so something else is also affecting the numbers.

Edit: The highest value you got in your non-kaiten test was 457, which means the highest number you should get in your kaiten test should have been ~685... yet your highest kaiten dot tick was 857. To get 857 from kaiten and the slashing debuff alone your max crit dot for non-kaiten should have been around 571 damage. Of course there is a lot of variance in getting a crit at the same time as a high damage roll for a given tick, but going from 450 to 571 goes well beyond that.

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idk what to tell you then cause using the exact same gear i've gotten the exact same results every single time i've tested it.

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Originally Posted by Falar

I got lucky and built my skills into a triangle like the 3 tsubas are in, helps a lot.

123 is my 10% damage combo
45 is where I put the other two pices for the other 3-combo
I put the slashing debuff skill above my 1

So that way it just so happened that each skill granting sen is in roughly the same place it appears in the tsuba triangle.

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I mean it's also a big tell with the animations having moon, cherry blossoms and ice particles, but idk, I feel it'd be a better thing for newbies to the class and/or for quick recap glances.

Muscle memory will become a thing, everyone just needs a bit of practice and time really. Organizing them so they're oriented similar to the UI gauge just speeds it up a little.

Do you guys keep your buffs up (Jinpu and Shifu) in AoE situations ?

I've been putting them on and then moving on to the Fuga combos and Tenka Goken. But I'm not sure if it's not more efficient to move straight into the AoE, I think it might be like that at a certain threshold of enemy numbers (damage buff might always be worth it to keep up).

Jinpu is worth upkeeping, but not Shifu. It's a delicate balance of increasing your AoE damage without going TP starved before the pack is dead. And you will go out of TP pretty quickly just spamming your AoE combos.

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Originally Posted by Jarinolde

Jinpu is worth upkeeping, but not Shifu. It's a delicate balance of increasing your AoE damage without going TP starved before the pack is dead. And you will go out of TP pretty quickly just spamming your AoE combos.

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It's very unlikely that Jinpu is worth keeping up either unless you're sustaining aoe for the full duration of the buff and you have significant TP regen from your party. You won't have the longevity to make Jinpu's buff overtake casting another aoe combo.

So, Meditate.... builds Kenki over 15 seconds, but you can't move or attack and it only works in combat. It really seems... counterintuitive. You have to stop attacking and if AoE happens to pop, you're going to have to move. I hope you at least get a good amount of Kenki from the couple of seconds you may be able to get out of it. Maybe used during ultimates or boss phase transitions?

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Originally Posted by Ryaz

So, Meditate.... builds Kenki over 15 seconds, but you can't move or attack and it only works in combat. It really seems... counterintuitive. Uou have to stop attacking and if AoE happens to pop, you're going to have to move. I hope you at least get a good amount of Kenki from the couple of seconds you may be able to get out of it. Maybe used during ultimates or boss phase transitions?

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I tested this and got 50 Kenki every time if used for the full duration. Basically 10 Kenki every 3 seconds, it will tick.

I think this is the most iffy ability in an otherwise amazingly fluid kit. You attack or even move and lose the channel, then it stays on its 60s cooldown.
It seems like it should be like Monk's Meditation (wow, close in function and name). You use it during downtime to balance having to rebuff yourself during phase changes.

But it's limited by movement already and waiting for a tick to go off, so why does it need a CD at all even? You wouldn't use it in normal combat, just like Meditation, because it's still result in a damage loss.

I like that you can't move and you have to wait and channel it, that adds an aspect of knowing positioning and timing to use it in advance. But I think it'd be great if we could use it more freely to fill combat lulls and without the punishing cooldown being on top of the other more reasonable restrictions.

And maybe it's not balanced for that much use, but it seems like it should be. It's not a huge deal, and I think the biggest use will be during phase changes, particularly ultimates (as you said).