Best Gear in Coil needs to end

I think most progression teams are aware of this, collision posted "world whatever" when they cleared because they know nothing but first could really be verified. It doesn't defeat the purpose and fun of tracking but I think everyone wishes the devs gave it more support like the sidebar on the lodestone. Of course any suggestion to this effect is sure to be hounded by forum posters who are intent on telling others how they should have fun.

We personally didn't submit because we were never competitive globally, we only aimed for server first though we followed the global race. We know we didn't stand a chance globally, I wouldn't have the energy for the amount of raid hours bg logs a day on progression. The fact that jp groups streamed before bg cleared and when most groups were quiet about tactics shows how little jp groups care about the progression competition too.

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here is one such JP group from Bahamut, cleared the day before us http://www.twitch.tv/iroha_ig/c/4133594
And here is the other one from Alexander, cleared on the 21st and it's BLM perspective too which was useful at the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVSu_qUr_hw

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Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser

It doesn't defeat the purpose and fun of tracking but I think everyone wishes the devs gave it more support like the sidebar on the lodestone.

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Yeap. Even if it's intra-server, I think some form of healthy competition is fun too.

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Originally Posted by Seif

I wish there was a quest like a Relic Reborn for wearable gear pieces too.

AND NO I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ATMA so sit down and read that 1st sentence again if you want to complain.

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Originally Posted by Pantz

But atma is fun! Atma for each gear piece!

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*deep sigh of hopelessness* Then I saw the sig:

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I am one of those folks that actually like the FF13 series and have played them multiple times.

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That explains so many things.

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Originally Posted by Seif

I wish there was a quest like a Relic Reborn for wearable gear pieces too.

AND NO I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ATMA so sit down and read that 1st sentence again if you want to complain.

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Yus! To be able to upgrade our Myth sets to AF2. Otherwise if they add complete new sets evey time to upgrade AF, will run out of space pretty quick XD

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Um, I'm quite happy for the best gear to come from coil. Do you even read bro? The hilarious part is, you even quoted it yourself.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

Yeah, my biggest gripe with 2.2 is that two separate gear streams are locked behind coil2.

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I guess you forgot when you said this. What a joke. You can already get Soldiery gear so why complain unless you wanted it to be i110? Yet you say you want the best gear to be from coil? Thanks for pointing this inconsistency out. If you hadn't brought it up I wouldn't have noticed.
What next? lol Are you going to say "Well I didn't mean i wanted ALL the best gear to be in coil" or that you meant you wanted more than one i100 gear set since there are 2 i110 gears sets? Yeah keep trying to fill the holes in your poor arguments. I'm better at arguing for your positions than you are. lol You're so predictable bro.

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Originally Posted by DosonTheGreat

I'm still maintaining that the most important achievement is having skill and working together with a skilled team. A skilled player without a group is just a skilled player without a group who will quickly find a new one if they are indeed a skilled player. Keep that in mind.

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Nope. There are tons of schedules which do not work with a static group. A skilled player can never clear coil. A mediocre player with a skilled team can, barring the last turn each tier. Before you try to say every person can find a group. Find one who runs on A/C shift on a 24/48, on any server and I'll transfer. Not a BS, "Oh, they do it whenever people are free" schedules that never work out. Show me *one* that has that schedule.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Nope. There are tons of schedules which do not work with a static group. A skilled player can never clear coil. A mediocre player with a skilled team can, barring the last turn each tier. Before you try to say every person can find a group. Find one who runs on A/C shift on a 24/48, on any server and I'll transfer. Not a BS, "Oh, they do it whenever people are free" schedules that never work out. Show me *one* that has that schedule.

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. Oh look it's one of those people. Why are "whenever people are ready" type groups discredited. Oh thats right, because their existence completely blows all the wind out of your argument. Skilled players regardless of schedules will find groups and down content as long as they have the will.

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Originally Posted by Bigpurpleharness

Nope. There are tons of schedules which do not work with a static group. A skilled player can never clear coil. A mediocre player with a skilled team can, barring the last turn each tier. Before you try to say every person can find a group. Find one who runs on A/C shift on a 24/48, on any server and I'll transfer. Not a BS, "Oh, they do it whenever people are free" schedules that never work out. Show me *one* that has that schedule.

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We do. We have someone who lives in Japan and works full time. We don't have more than a few hours to raid on any day other than tuesday. He's not available on saturdays cuz he spends time with his family. But we've found that you don't need much time to be the best and get server first; skill can more than make up for that. lol So funny watching the other group spend hours and hours each day and we just go in there and casually down each turn. I'm tired of peopel always accusing us of having no life and playing the game nonstop. They probably spend more time playing than we do.

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Originally Posted by Awrini

. Oh look it's one of those people. Why are "whenever people are ready" type groups discredited. Oh thats right, because their existence completely blows all the wind out of your argument. Skilled players regardless of schedules will find groups and down content as long as they have the will.

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Why is this so hard for people to understand? Not everyone has to spend 12 hours a day for weeks downing content. We never went any more than a few hours each day except Tuesday. It was golden week when we downed t9 so we had a little more time to raid which was nice. People keep telling us we're not special but if their mind can't comprehend what we do then we must be pretty special.

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Originally Posted by Awrini

. Oh look it's one of those people. Why are "whenever people are ready" type groups discredited. Oh thats right, because their existence completely blows all the wind out of your argument. Skilled players regardless of schedules will find groups and down content as long as they have the will.

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Because 9 times out of 10, they never work out. They either never run, or translate to, "Whenever these two people need it."

Besides there's schedules for everyone, so feel free to show me just one (I'm not demanding a cutting edge group either) that works with mine. Spoilers: You can't. Tried for months, they don't exist. Just like the last 6 groups I joined that went, "When everyone could make it that week." never actually ran.