CG Midlander

As silly as I was being on my last post, it's been playing on my mind...

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Also:
Alphinaud = Alphin-aud (as per Elezen naming conventions)
Alphin is a Scottish name meaning "White"

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Now there is one other character who's *definitely* referred to as "White"...

(oh hi Alphinaud! Nice earring!)

His head and ear placements looks Lalafellin to me, the ears and eyes are Elezen.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Now there is one other character who's *definitely* referred to as "White"...

(oh hi Alphinaud! Nice earring!)

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I don't think my echo-paranoia would combine well with SE explicitly implementing a time travelling NPC, but if it's his kid I'd be all over that sh-- stuff.

Well let's not forget, the Archons are suppose to be the Twelve reincarnated. If Louisoix did indeed kick-the-bucket then there would have to be a reincarnation if they are indeed all reincarnated Twelve. A question I would ask is: are they reincarnated within people of the Circle of Knowing or are they born amongst the masses. If they are reincarnated amongst the masses, the other Archons would probably have it at the top of their list to find the new reincarnated form. Now if it's only reincarnation (or some kind of transference?) within the Circle of Knowing..well then it's only a few chosen who will have the rights to call themselves Archons, and to me that would bring up a whole lot more questions to be asked about the depth and the knowledge of the Circle of Knowing and the Archons.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Well let's not forget, the Archons are suppose to be the Twelve reincarnated.

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Yes, supposed to be according to popular myth, which has this habit of warping the truth. So what are they really?

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Originally Posted by Catapult

Yes, supposed to be according to popular myth, which has this habit of warping the truth.

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Are you insinuating the Louisoix did not arrive in Gridania via a giant egg?

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Are you insinuating the Louisoix did not arrive in Gridania via a giant egg?

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Indeed I am good sir.

Those who object, I challenge them to provide me with an item of irrefutable proof - the remnants of his elezen-sized egg shell.

Ladies and gentlemen of the loremonger. I present to you exhibit "A" and "B" in a single screenshot i took while adventuring.
http://i.imgur.com/efFjuUL.jpg
A single giant elezen sized egg shell "A". In what appears to be a giant elezen egg incubation chamber "B".

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Originally Posted by Beowolf

Ladies and gentlemen of the loremonger. I present to you exhibit "A" and "B" in a single screenshot i took while adventuring.
http://i.imgur.com/efFjuUL.jpg
A single giant elezen sized egg shell "A". In what appears to be a giant elezen egg incubation chamber "B".

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Hmm... not sure I believe you on the incubation chamber part. Looks more like a tomb to me.

So guys, I don't feel like reading 20 pages or whatnot and wanted to ask: Was it brought up how the concept art of the jobs on that job "wheel" are mostly characters from the Opening Cinematic/End of An Era?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2RghB8r4tA
http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte.../wallpaper.jpg

Only ones we don't know are the female Hyuran Monk, the male Miqo'te Summoner, and female Elezen Scholar. The male Dragoon could possibly be the Elezen that left the party.

Was there confirmation that this advertised party was the Heroes of Light?

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Was it brought up how the concept art of the jobs on that job "wheel" are mostly characters from the Opening Cinematic/End of An Era?

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A good amount of the concept art going all the way back to pre-release has featured these party members. It seems go to the other way, that the members of the CG party are based on some of the concept art stock characters. Here's the Call Me Maybe Lalafell back when the Armory System was first announced.

http://www.beyondvanadiel.com/images...ders/big/1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Was there confirmation that this advertised party was the Heroes of Light?

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Technically all adventurers are the Warriors of Light from their own perspective. These party members seem to represent us, which is why we've never heard of any of them having names. They're on the same path we are, but in their own way.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

But that still leaves one question—was the party an actual party, or were they merely symbols meant to represent you, the players? Well, you can breathe easy knowing they are both. They all ventured into Eorzea at the same time as you did. They all did similar quests, and lived through similar adventures. They exist as your characters exist (in a virtual world-sort of existence). The fact that you haven’t come across them is probably the same reason you haven’t come across my character, Amanda Hugginkyss (or maybe you have? /wink). They’re just somewhere else. Though, maybe you’ll stumble across their party in the future. Or maybe you won’t. How’s that for committing to an answer?

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Well, the "original" Heroes of Light at the Battle of Cartenau, y'know?

I'd like to see them as actual characters rather than a flip-floppy metaphor.

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Well, the "original" Heroes of Light at the Battle of Cartenau, y'know?

I'd like to see them as actual characters rather than a flip-floppy metaphor.

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Why? One of my biggest frustrations with version one right up until the shutdown was the uselessness that was forced on my character in almost every cutscene. Every time something cinematic happened I was forced to stand there and watch my NPC allies be cut down while my character just gasped and staggered about until the CS ended and I could finally kick some ass.

It would be the ultimate insult to be now told that this special CG party were the "original" Warriors of Light and that they were somehow more relevant to the events which took place than the rest of the players. I'm sick of being sidelined.

Those people are other adventurers -- they're not showing your character because there are just too many players. So they made up a handful of adventurers to follow that could represent all of us. They're each one of us. We're each one of them. It's not flip-floppy, it just doesn't have your face plastered all over it.

I think you got a bit upset there.

Ultimately, I'd like to see them as actual characters, probably doing their own thing. Not saying that they take credit for everything, but there's been a good amount of thought and background put into them. Hell, this is what this thread was originally made about.

And I hope 2.0's Legacy intro quest will at least explain whether or not our Legacy characters were actually at Cartenau Flats instead of in Mor Dhona preventing reinforcements from joining the front lines.

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Originally Posted by Jacien

And I hope 2.0's Legacy intro quest will at least explain whether or not our Legacy characters were actually at Cartenau Flats instead of in Mor Dhona preventing reinforcements from joining the front lines.

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Technically it is an area with the same discolored terrain, but southwest of accessable Mor Dhona. In all likelihood, it is still considered part of that region, as I have pointed out before, the crashed airship (in the ravine west of the "Don't harm the messenger" quest) is probably in the same general area.

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Ultimately, I'd like to see them as actual characters, probably doing their own thing. Not saying that they take credit for everything, but there's been a good amount of thought and background put into them. Hell, this is what this thread was originally made about.

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Ferne himself has said it, those characters are... Just another group of players! That is basically their stance on them. Not being able to depict every player at once, they picked just one random group of them to put in that place. They're not so much surrogates for the player, but they are players like us.

Actually it's more like they're both.

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But that still leaves one question—was the party an actual party, or were they merely symbols meant to represent you, the players? Well, you can breathe easy knowing they are both. They all ventured into Eorzea at the same time as you did. They all did similar quests, and lived through similar adventures. They exist as your characters exist (in a virtual world-sort of existence). The fact that you haven’t come across them is probably the same reason you haven’t come across my character, Amanda Hugginkyss (or maybe you have? /wink). They’re just somewhere else. Though, maybe you’ll stumble across their party in the future. Or maybe you won’t. How’s that for committing to an answer?

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Bolded part is what I'm looking forward to as a possibility.

It'd be neat. For promotional material they'd be just symbols, but ingame they could be actual characters doing their own thing apart from our quests.

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Originally Posted by Jacien

Actually it's more like they're both.



Bolded part is what I'm looking forward to as a possibility.

It'd be neat. For promotional material they'd be just symbols, but ingame they could be actual characters doing their own thing apart from our quests.

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Yeah, same here and I agree... there was an awesome thread about this sometime last November where many of us expressed a suggestion to meet the "Warriors of Light" in-game. And like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is... because like everyone, I actually love seeing this party together in the CGs (and the lore regarding ARR won't be the same without us knowing what happened to him).

I still speculate that he decided one of the following paths:

• Hiked into the wilderness of destroyed Ala Migho to train in becoming a Monk (this option has now been elimiated after we saw the new promotional artwork showing a female Monk)
• Travels to Limsa and becomes a dual welding Musketeer
• Wandered off to Sharlayan to become a Samurai or Ninja (he DID have a chill, cunning air about him in the original 1.0 CG).
• He hiked it to Ishgard to train with the knights and became a become Dragoon (which is becoming more and more the likely possibility... new promo art looks like him innit? Plus, it also opens up several awesome opportunities for us to quest with "the party" in Ishgard)

Darn it... wish I could find that thread. But the general consensus was that the last option seemed most plausible...kinda fits very well with their tale, the DRG AF storyline plus it will likely explain why he was not at the final battle.

Wish we had a PM system on here... woulda liked to ask Anonymoose Or Catapalt if they had some thought on this.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

Yeah, same here and I agree... there was an awesome thread about this sometime last November where many of us expressed a suggestion to meet the "Warriors of Light" in-game. And like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is... because like everyone, I actually love seeing this party together in the CGs (and the lore regarding ARR won't be the same without us knowing what happened to him).

I still speculate that he decided one of the following paths:

• Hiked into the wilderness of destroyed Ala Migho to train in becoming a Monk (this option has now been elimiated after we saw the new promotional artwork showing a female Monk)
• Travels to Limsa and becomes a dual welding Musketeer
• Wandered off to Sharlayan to become a Samurai or Ninja (he DID have a chill, cunning air about him in the original 1.0 CG).
• He hiked it to Ishgard to train with the knights and became a become Dragoon (which is becoming more and more the likely possibility... new promo art looks like him innit? Plus, it also opens up several awesome opportunities for us to quest with "the party" in Ishgard)

Darn it... wish I could find that thread. But the general consensus was that the last option seemed most plausible...kinda fits very well with their tale, the DRG AF storyline plus it will likely explain why he was not at the final battle.

Wish we had a PM system on here... woulda liked to ask Anonymoose Or Catapalt if they had some thought on this.

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I remember a response by Ferne but I don't remember the male Elezen being mentioned. Just the CG Midlander, the male Roeg, female Miqo'te, female Lalafell, and female Elezen. The only speculation we really have for him is that he knows what the Echo is and probably has it himself as he asks the Midlander "return from your reverie?" or something along those lines.

I'm not sure he could become a Dragoon, because we become a Dragoon and recover the Dragoon AF that was put there by Ser Alberic after the Eye of Nidohogg acknowledges us, but I mean I guess it's possible for this to happen to him as well after all he's essentially an Adventurer like us. Also the Dragoon art isn't an Elezen, there's no ears sticking out:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EN6pJEuSzY...1331514406.jpg

http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...p1920_1200.jpg

As for the other speculations...as far as we know Widargelt is the only Monk left from Ala Mhigo. Erik tells us that the Ala Mhigan King Theodoric destroyed the Fists of Rhalgr, PROBABLY influenced by Gaius van Baelsar or Garlean spies, after all we're told that Ala Mhigo fell with little resistance and bloodshed because of the Garleans inciting unrest in the populous. So they probably go hand-in-hand.

Samurai and Ninja will probably come from the "east," a.k.a. Othard so Sharlayan is probably out of the question.

Dual wielding Musketeer, lol maybe.

But now that you bring up the topic, it would be nice if we can learn where the Male Elezen is as we learn about the CG Midlander and troop.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

I don't remember the male Elezen being mentioned. <snip> Erik tells us that the Ala Mhigan King Theodoric destroyed the Fists of Rhalgr, PROBABLY influenced by Gaius van Baelsar or Garlean spies

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The male elezen was reported as leaving the group we see in End of an Era / A New Beginning, though no reason was given. Perhaps he'll show back up someday.

As for Ala Mhigo's political troubles, it's hard to say. The final fall of Ala Mhigo was surely due to Legatus Baelsar's manipulations, but did he create the entire conflict or simply add fuel to an already existing fire? The destruction of the Monks and tyrannical behavior by Theodoric took place around 1552, five years before they actually took the city. Did Gaius capitalize on an already bad situation, or was the Emperor totally fine with sitting around for five years after declaring it open season on Aldenard just to fell the first city? This remains unanswered, as far as I know.

*(Tries not to grin)*

You know Noloe? That image of the Elezen Dragoon is actually my very own screenshot... taken right after I completed the AF quests in-game. I put that on my blog about 15 months ago. In fact, the file name is still the same.

Secondly, (again because I actually posted the image up on my blog), several people have speculated that the Dragoon is in fact an Elezen... even on your image, look at the ears on the Dragoon VERY closely... pointy innit? Perhaps a better enlarged picture of my one from my blog can be found HERE

And yes, Ferne did mention an excellent legendary explanation for a LOT of the lore regarding the "Warriors of Light"...(BTW, its on page 23 of this thread)... we know he explained this already. Which is why if you read my post above, I specifically said "like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is..."

Several of us (like then and again now) were simply speculating on where he might be... and how awesome it would be to help the group in a quest to find him.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

The male elezen was reported as leaving the group we see in End of an Era / A New Beginning, though no reason was given. Perhaps he'll show back up someday.

As for Ala Mhigo's political troubles, it's hard to say. The final fall of Ala Mhigo was surely due to Legatus Baelsar's manipulations, but did he create the entire conflict or simply add fuel to an already existing fire? The destruction of the Monks and tyrannical behavior by Theodoric took place around 1552, five years before they actually took the city. Did Gaius capitalize on an already bad situation, or was the Emperor totally fine with sitting around for five years after declaring it open season on Aldenard just to fell the first city? This remains unanswered, as far as I know.

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I remember the speculation with the Male and Female Elezen and being the Black Mage, I just didn't remember Ferne saying he might show up again. And I'd say the loss of the Monks was a direct impact on the loss of the entire city. But who can say even if Ala Mhigo had their entire Monk force if they could have stopped the Garleans and their Magitek. It was probably well known that Ala Mhigo was the strongest military city-state and how strong their Monks were. Gaius van Baelsar may not have instigated things with King Theoderic, but was definitely able to capitalize on it easily enough..unrest would be easy to spark after such bloodshed.

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Originally Posted by Ramesses

*(Tries not to grin)*

You know Noloe? That image of the Elezen Dragoon is actually my very own screenshot... taken right after I completed the AF quests in-game. I put that on my blog about 15 months ago. In fact, the file name is still the same.

Secondly, (again because I actually posted the image up on my blog), several people have speculated that the Dragoon is in fact an Elezen... even on your image, look at the ears on the Dragoon VERY closely... pointy innit? Perhaps a better enlarged picture of my one from my blog can be found HERE

And yes, Ferne did mention an excellent legendary explanation for a LOT of the lore regarding the "Warriors of Light"...(BTW, its on page 23 of this thread)... we know he explained this already. Which is why if you read my post above, I specifically said "like I said then, I'm still seriously wondering where the Elezen male is..."

Several of us (like then and again now) were simply speculating on where he might be... and how awesome it would be to help the group in a quest to find him.

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Elezen Dragoon like Lalafell Dragoons have 2 protrusions from their helmet. The 'silver' spikes in your picture (which lol it was just one of the first to appear on google) and the regular spikes like on the concept art.

http://cdn.guildwork.net/albums/imag...09c3003405.jpg

Might be hard to see but there's 2 points, silver for the ears and the regular points on the helm

Here's a close up of Estinein, an Elezen Dragoon and both points are seen.

http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpr...n_01_thumb.jpg

So if you look at the concept art..there's only 1 spike.

http://cdn2.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...p1920_1200.jpg

As for the other image you posted, the 'silver' part doesn't stick out like the ears would, but it's similar to the Miqo'te's style of the helmet. The silver being there but not prominently sticking out. More so styled closer to the helm.

http://files.enjin.com.s3.amazonaws....nal/416420.jpg

Edit: Not saying it's a Miqo'te. The art does lack a Male Miqo and female Roegadyn though. I assume the Black Mage is the female Elezen though, looking carefully you can see ear protrusions.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

So, that's why I'm thinking Paragon and Ascian are related or even the same.

*rolls in all the lore* Wheee-heehee! \o.O/

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Woohoo! I called it! :D

*Rolls in Moar Lore*

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Woohoo! I called it! :D

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

In the first days of dawn, old enemies become new and two were never two.
The highest among beasts and the hoarders of horns would dim the six to silence the one.

Found Among the Incoherent Writings of Nostradamoose

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Indeed! I forgot you'd called it so soon, but I figured a big mess of things out (and realized I didn't know a few things I thought I did, as well) while working on a very intense project that's coming soon. I was planning on writing a "This is Your Enemy" article about Ascians as they're mentioned so seldomly, but between the Beta and the new trailer, Team Yoshi-P is going all out "This is Your Enemy."

This is what Gaius meant when he said, "[Eorzea] must be saved." Everything in on the Ascians. The Empire feels that if the world is going to be saved at all, they're not going to be able to waste time being diplomatic with people too stupid to understand what's going on. You can choose - submit to Imperial rule or lose the war. Either way you're not stopping them from taking this threat head on. The only thing that remains to be seen is whether the Garleans made the "Primals are here incidentally as part of a larger ascian plan" leap.

We'll see if Beta also eliminates my need to write the Archons article.

Something else that was mentioned in the Ul'dah storyline that reminded me of you guys was some stuff on Lolorito...I'm not sure if it was Moose or Hiir that pointed this out in this thread and the Ul'dah story thread, but as we expected, Lolorito has some dirty tricks up his sleeve. He sends his goons after anyone who aspires to be in the Syndicate and during the second main story quest, is very close to becoming your enemy...He really wants to overthrow the Sultanate. Also they mentioned him in the THM quest i think; he's been donating a lot of gil to the Ossuary, so...I'm starting to see a connection here with the 1.0 Ul'dah story, and I definitely don't doubt the possibility of Lolorito being the one who killed Nielle in 1.0 anymore.

also nice call, hiir!

The syndicate (six richest people in Ul'dah) can usually be thought of as a two-party system. You've got your royalists, who believe that their power and wealth are a means to do right by the Sultanate, and you've got your monetarists, who believe that power and wealth are the goal at any other cost.

Currently, Raubahn is the only remaining royalist in the syndicate. That should give you an idea how bad things are going with that right now, lol.

When the Empire invaded Eorzea, the Monetarists, who had dealings in Garlemald already, simply bribed their way out of the embargo, the rest of Eorzea (including the Immortal Flames) be damned. It wasn't until they realized that Garlemald would see them all dead, anyway, that they came around and invested in the Grand Companies (and even then, finances went only in the Flames).

I'm still waiting to see if the old stories are wrapped up in ARR or if Ferne's just going to lay down the Truth and we'll move on with our lives, but right now I'm thinking the assassin was Warburton.

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Originally Posted by Fleurette

Something else that was mentioned in the Ul'dah storyline that reminded me of you guys was some stuff on Lolorito...I'm not sure if it was Moose or Hiir that pointed this out in this thread and the Ul'dah story thread, but as we expected, Lolorito has some dirty tricks up his sleeve. He sends his goons after anyone who aspires to be in the Syndicate and during the second main story quest, is very close to becoming your enemy...He really wants to overthrow the Sultanate. Also they mentioned him in the THM quest i think; he's been donating a lot of gil to the Ossuary, so...I'm starting to see a connection here with the 1.0 Ul'dah story, and I definitely don't doubt the possibility of Lolorito being the one who killed Nielle in 1.0 anymore.

also nice call, hiir!

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That was me actually lol.

My 2 points were: either Lord Lolorito hired an assassin after the "thief" who stole the Heartstrike or Warburton had a Revenge-Will that the Thaumaturge honored upon his death, since it was an "unnatural" death. If Warburton had any wealth it went to the Thaumaturge and his Revenge-Will was then executed on the man who caused his death, Niellefresne.

I can see where Warburton would be the one to kill Nielle, after all if Lord Lolorito had sent an assassin after Nielle he clearly would have had instructions to recover the Heartstrike (or at least the jewel on the pommel). But Nielle dropped the dagger and the jewel was shattered. But as a real criminal would think, if the Heartstrike was then taken from the crime...and somehow appeared back in Lolorito's care, everyone would know that he probably had something to do with it.

As for what Nielle saw in the sarcophagus, I'm inclined now to just toss out a bomb and say he's shocked both because Warburton is not inside and the body of Corguevais is staring up at him. That's my own speculation and probably has 0 merit, besides the fact Warburton's body is probably 99% not the body inside the sarcophagus.

Also as Moose says, Raubahn is probably all that stands between the Sultana and the Syndicate now...a nice juicy tidbit is here brother the prince is a member of the Syndicate and owner of the Platinum Mirage.

Enemies enemies everywhere. Ul'dah has the Syndicate, Limsa has pirates, and Gridania is all peaceful in the woods.. =[

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Originally Posted by Warlock

http://static.finalfantasyxiv.com/to...2c2d47bb6983c3

Has this been discussed here yet?
What you guys think about this verse?
When it talks about Primal Desires i understand it talking about the most basic feelings which that would be hate and love? but that two swords will lay them down..both of them not just evil has me confused..
the two swords are different and man will have to choose which one will decide their fate

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The first line of the prophecy was spoken by Urianger when you arrive at the headquarters of the Scions of the Seventh Dawn. I would take it to indicate that the arrival of the adventurers blessed by the Crystal at Vesper bay, both new and Legacy, is the beginning of the dawn that they speak of.

Immediately after that, you have an encounter with a primal.

As a blade born of the crystals light you felled it, only to be watched by a sword of might from the Empire.

All that's left is the last line...

Do I have this figured out already? D=

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

There's a preview translation for the ConnectOn! Interview in the JP to English thread.... Urianger was a temporary NPC and is taking a break...? Maybe he'll be back later.

More interesting tidbit was that Legacy PCs will be treated slightly differently than new players when it comes to NPC dialogue. So Loremongers need to be sure to make a new character in ARR. To get both sides of the story. To survivors of the SUE, PCs who transferred from 1.0 story line are called "Hollow Beings". Of course, this is a translation and the localization team may call us something else in English.

I wonder why they would give us a name with such a negative connotation?

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It appears that the Mystery of Urianger is gone sorta and he's back. I haven't heard the exact reference to Hollow Beings. The legacy players are described by Baderon as people who's name is on the tips of people's tongues but they can't quite remember them. "Like a bird against the sun" they can only see them vaguely in their minds. They're "hollow presences" it seems, is in people's memories.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

Do I have this figured out already? D=

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Nope.

Hint (only if you want it)

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Originally Posted by Y'shtola

But all is not yet lost. Sensing the gravity of the situation, our master—the allseer—has arrived to begin his search for Daybreak—one of the blades mentioned in the Divine Chronicles.

An Officer and a Wise Man (FFXIV: V1)

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Nope.

Hint (only if you want it)

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OMG HE'S LET THE ELK OUT OF THE BAG!!!!1

The truth is usually right under your nose.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

OMG HE'S LET THE ELK OUT OF THE BAG!!!!1

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LOL. Yeah... Beta has changed my mind about a lot of the ideas I had floating around for lore articles. I thought it'd be fun to do a, "this is your enemy" article about Ascians, but we were told so little about them in V1 and Team Yoshi-P has (rightly) come on very strong with it in ARR, so that article isn't necessary. Moreover, I really don't like writing about the future. I'll keep up with current lore events and help catalog the past properly, but the future is all for SE.

That said, I'll still talk about it here!

Dawn may banish even the darkest night, a blade born of light, a sword named Daybreak. Seems like a lot to chalk up to coincidence. They're most likely related.

Elk? lol Thanks Anonymoose! :D

Aside from any possible references to this Daybreak sword, I'd say that passage generally refers to the fact that both us the players (the Warriors of Light) and the Empire (the might) seek to eliminate the primals but in different ways and (maybe?) for different reasons. Ultimately, only one side will succeed and all of Eorzea must choose to either submit to Garlean subjugation or to resist being conquered and take care of the primals on our own.

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Originally Posted by Myranda

Aside from any possible references to this Daybreak sword, I'd say that passage generally refers to the fact that both us the players (the Warriors of Light) and the Empire (the might) seek to eliminate the primals but in different ways and (maybe?) for different reasons. Ultimately, only one side will succeed and all of Eorzea must choose to either submit to Garlean subjugation or to resist being conquered and take care of the primals on our own.

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Yeah, there are a lot of double meanings in these prophecies. "Valiant blades forged under the Twelve's good grace," has meant different things to everyone who's heard it. Urianger and Louisoix put stake in it being both metaphorical and literal; both referring to a group (adventurers) and an individual (Daybreak) - and for all we know, Daybreak isn't even a literal sword (though, so far it sounds like it is). Remember, Urianger says many times that adventurers are important but you are the key. Was he talking only about your place in reuniting the companies? Perhaps you're Daybreak. I don't know. I don't like talking about the future.

I prefer to look at the bigger picture - the Garleans think killing all the primals in their territory (which requires making all territory their territory) is a good plan. The big problem with that logic is that primals cannot exist if the aether of the realm is in harmonious balance.

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Originally Posted by Sylph

Woken ones are blind! Woken ones still sleep! Primal ones live not beyond the aether, but amongst the aether! Primal ones are here! Primal ones rule!

Toll of the Warden (V1)

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By defeating the Ascians (who destabilize the aether, using primals as a sort of positive feedback loop) the essence of the primals will simply dissolve back into the aether and disappear. And Garleans suck with aether, they can't even use magick.

The Blade(s) of Light, possibly aided by whatever this Daybreak is, will triumph over the blades of might that would subvert the primals another way (looking at you, Omega/Ultima Weapon). Who wins? The one with aether on its side. The one backed by the Crystal herself.