Relic Weapon Revival (06/06/2012)

The weapons are alright.

I'm LOVIN the GC weapons. The designs look amazing and totally different than what we have now.

Gladiator Cutlass? OMFG
Lominsan Labrys thing? HELL YEAH
Lominsan Trident? I'm sorry guys, but I feel bad for whoever didn't pick Maelstrom :D


EDIT: Totally gloating about the GC weapons when this thread is about Relic weapons lol

Oh my...war Axe has +50 ekmnity!? Can't I get a weapon that does damage and let's the PLD tank at the same time!

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I am fine with these weapons being long term if we are working towards it and not depending on a RNG system like dungeons. I want to know what I put in everyday is going towards something, not pulling a lever on a slot machine and hope for the best.

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Hi All,

I agree with Velhart, Premium, Firon and many others:

I don't mind a long-term goal (I LOVE having them :)). I totally understand Yoshida-san's need for a Time Sink to keep us all busy until 2.0 launches (with very few patches Pre-2.0 remaining).

But the difference between Final Fantasy XI's Dynamis (Early Days) for Relic Weapons & what we have now with Hamlet Defense (and seen with Darklight Gear Drops) is that in Dynamis, EVERY time you participate, you are 1 step closer to your goal.

You know you're getting closer because you receive "points" (Ancient Currency) every time you go. So while the total # of currency required may be longer than these 9 Primal Seals + the 25k Key Item, this current system is demoralizing simply because it's a Low Random Number Generator, based on luck.

You may get lucky and get your 9 Primal Seals with minimal grinding, or you may be unlucky and not get any drops for a while (like one streak we had of 0/14 drops in Hamlet before we saw 1 Seal (all over 65,000 Points each time) (actually 0/112 Rewards since none of the 8 of us got anything but Dark Matter).

It's demoralizing, mind-numbing, and gives people *NO* incentive to want to grind through Hamlet Defense (or any of that content).

If Yoshida-san implemented a Point System, so that every time you do Hamlet Defense, EVERYONE gets Points, and those Points eventually can be turned in to get a Primal Seal, then at least everyone knows they're making positive progress towards the Long Term Goal.

And also, unlike Dynamis, Hamlet Defense is so much LESS EPIC and more linear.

The early days of Dynamis-Xarcabard (and other areas) had different grand goals like going after Dynamis Lord, or getting NM Drops before that point, or different Side Paths, to fight other NMs and get people Attestations, or just go through different side paths to farm more Ancient Currency, etc.

Not so with Hamlet Defense.

I sincerely hope Yoshida-san implements a Points System soon, to let people grind through less painfully (or ups the Drop Rate noticeably).

http://mozk-tabetai.com/

real stats the dat mine program doesnt give the correct info

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Originally Posted by Meier

Sorry to be off topic but, this is interesting..



"Curtana was also, according to legend, the sword of Ogier the Dane; it bore the inscription "My name is Cortana, of the same steel and temper as Joyeuse and Durendal." It is supposed to have originally been Tristan's sword, and gained the name "Cortana" when it was "cut down" to fit Ogier"

Does this mean we will be able to upgrade to the other 2 sword and the 4th un-named one is legendary?

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The 4 would be: Curtana, Durandal, Joyeuse, Oathkeeper


Anyways BRD is only 28 DPS? LOLOLOLOLOLOL What is BRD supposed to gear using that bow, MP and +Heal? :/ Its not going to do any damage at all with it in any case

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Oh my...war Axe has +50 ekmnity!? Can't I get a weapon that does damage and let's the PLD tank at the same time!

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Yeah I was saddened by that. I hate how they are making WAR almost totally tank.

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Originally Posted by Kiara

Hi All,

You know you're getting closer because you receive "points" (Ancient Currency) every time you go. So while the total # of currency required may be longer than these 9 Primal Seals + the 25k Key Item, this current system is demoralizing simply because it's a Low Random Number Generator, based on luck.

If Yoshida-san implemented a Point System, so that every time you do Hamlet Defense, EVERYONE gets Points, and those Points eventually can be turned in to get a Primal Seal, then at least everyone knows they're making positive progress towards the Long Term Goal.

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when we did dyna.. the point system was kept track of by the ls alone.. 1 run = 1 point. all the ancient currency went to the person sponsoring the run.. if you had enough points in the ls and something you wanted dropped then it was yours.. if someone out pointed you,whether they had the job leveled or not.. whether they brought the job or not, you were outta luck.. I hope they don't implement something like that into hamlet...

Since in 1.22c their implementing the new system for hamlet... that seems to be on its way to being taken care of already i geuss.. but then whos going to do hamlet? once youve done it so many times, your done right? completely? why ever do it again?

Bring it on. I look forward to holding that lance in my hands.

Sounds more like poor LS management to me.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

Anyways BRD is only 28 DPS? LOLOLOLOLOLOL What is BRD supposed to gear using that bow, MP and +Heal? :/ Its not going to do any damage at all with it in any case

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lol... what are you looking at?