The great streamer Asmongold is joining FFXIV

Just because someone is famous it doesn't mean that they deserve to be harassed whenever they try to do something.

Just as someone doesn't deserve to be harassed when they step into a restaurant even if they're famous, so too is it the case that they shouldn't be harassed if they want to play a video-game.

It doesn't matter if he's streaming, either - something being on camera does not suddenly make harassment okay.

Good news is it seems like the crowd following him has diminished.

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Originally Posted by twixelstix

Good news is it seems like the crowd following him has diminished.

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Did a GM warn them, or did they just get bored?

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Did a GM warn them, or did they just get bored?

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More like bored...

Idk what the full story is but i hope the dude gets some fun playing FFXIV and even if he doesn't like it it's fine.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Did a GM warn them, or did they just get bored?

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My guess is bored, like they usually do whenever he goes to play a game on a new server or something.

Sheesh, let the man try a new game people! (In)famous or not, he deserves a chance to play the game and give it a fair shake.

People are being very rude to him and disrupting his gameplay experience with memes and toxicity - following him around and spamming their bright skills for example such as holy. I guess this is the best of what the FF community has to offer to a sprout rather than being welcoming and letting him mind his own and enjoy the game in the same was as all of us were allowed to. please, be respectful. don't chase people away that could potentially bring in more players.

This man just took a massive dump on every other FFXIV streamer who have spent years dedicated to the game for a man to reach numbers they can not even dream of cause that is how unrealistic it is for them to reach.

I do hope Asmon sticks with it and other streamers follow.

all the people with ultimate and savage mounts stopped bothering him when he brought up reporting them, lol

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Originally Posted by juicybug

People are being very rude to him and disrupting his gameplay experience with memes and toxicity - following him around and spamming their bright skills for example such as holy. I guess this is the best of what the FF community has to offer to a sprout rather than being welcoming and letting him mind his own and enjoy the game in the same was as all of us were allowed to. please, be respectful. don't chase people away that could potentially bring in more players.

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Yup some bad apples do it to him so this is the whole community and the best of them at that. Down with them all

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Won't be any more of a mess than Shadowbringers launch was. They'll have the zones expected to be congested instanced again. Even East Shroud had been instanced for Shadowbringers launch because they knew a lot of players would be unlocking GNB.

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ARR = Bad, naive devs thought not that many people would play.
HW = Ok. Some issues arround but overall much better.
SB = WTF who did design the scenario, how do you even. Wat.
ShB = Ok! Finally...?

We have yet to see.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

How does one grief a player in a raid instance unless you're in the same party/Alliance? No one can send him tells, spam him with friend requests, etc. when he is in an instanced duty.

His name doesn't have to be visible at all. initials are an option. World can be hidden via Character Customization HUD options.

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Do you know what stream snipe is? All he has to do is say "Alright I'mma queue up for Ivalice raid part 3" and everyone who is watching his stream queues up. A few get inside the same instance as him, and by comparing what's happening with his stream they figure out who he is and his name is out in the wild.

Also you shouldn't have to gut your entire UI just because a few people don't like him because he likes a different game.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Asmongold is far more likely to get tossed into the gaol for deliberately provoking the situation.

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I doubt that would happen. SE is not dumb and they know it's not his fault and can verify that it was a group of people trying to sabotage him. SE knows that a famous streamer like Asmongold joining FFXIV over WoW will only result in positive things for the game.

If they are that dumb and that ends up happening though I can see thousands of people cancelling their subs in protest for the unfair treatment.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

There are so many ways to avoid what's happening right now.

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Yes, the best way is acting like a great community, not just saying it.

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Originally Posted by juicybug

following him around and spamming their bright skills for example such as holy. I guess this is the best of what the FF community has to offer to a sprout rather than being welcoming and letting him mind his own and enjoy the game in the same was as all of us were allowed to. please, be respectful. don't chase people away that could potentially bring in more players.

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They aren't chasing him away, this kind of thing happens to any vaguely popular streamer or player trying an MMO.
Its either for attention to get 10 seconds of fame to be on the persons video/stream, or because they are that excited to see the person that they overdue it with the welcome party.
He will be fine, lets not baby the guy, he's tougher then he might look.

Plus most games have tools to Mute some things that could be disruptive like all the effects.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

Do you know what stream snipe is? All he has to do is say "Alright I'mma queue up for Ivalice raid part 3" and everyone who is watching his stream queues up. A few get inside the same instance as him, and by comparing what's happening with his stream they figure out who he is and his name is out in the wild.

Also you shouldn't have to gut your entire UI just because a few people don't like him because he likes a different game.



I doubt that would happen. SE is not dumb and they know it's not his fault and can verify that it was a group of people trying to sabotage him. SE knows that a famous streamer like Asmongold joining FFXIV over WoW will only result in positive things for the game.

If they are that dumb and that ends up happening though I can see thousands of people cancelling their subs in protest for the unfair treatment.



Yes, the best way is acting like a great community, not just saying it.

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You act like none of this happens in other MMOs. It does, often, and he DOES have ways to avoid it. Like streaming right when the instance is fully queued up. Meaning he starts the stream right when he enters the raid. Can't snipe if the instance is already entered.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Raubahn EX and Pipin Savage were the true endgame!

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Respect to all my Brothers and Sisters that survived that Raid

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

You act like none of this happens in other MMOs. It does, often, and he DOES have ways to avoid it. Like streaming right when the instance is fully queued up. Meaning he starts the stream right when he enters the raid. Can't snipe if the instance is already entered.

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Anyone that's inside the instance with him can just turn on the stream and figure it out. Specially someone so famous as Asmongold who has 2.1 million followers is more than likely to get queued up with people who follow him.

And there is no way around stream sniping Eureka/Bozja/Zadnor.

Are people genuinely surprised that this is happening? Just look at the comments by our great community in these asmongold threads. Also i have a genuine question. Seeing that a lot of these griefers are max level and have savage raid mounts etc. Does it really matter if they’re fans of his or what have you? If they’ve spent this much time in game they are a part of this community as well whether we like it or not. I highly doubt though that a majority of them are his fans. Again like i said there were warning signs in these threads. I just hope this all results in a lot of the more sensitive folk of the community getting banned for their actions.

I'm more surprised people are looking at this and going "Yes, the entire FFXIV community is like this"

I shouldn't be, seeing as I'm from Balmung, but...

I love how people are Whining for Asmongold.
The guy is doing just fine, people got their 1 hour of fame, and he got a giant welcome into the game.

The worse of it died out pretty quick, and he at least sounds like he is enjoying the game so far.
Thats what should matter.

Nobody is suggesting that every single member of the FFXIV community is a bad apple. They're simply pointing out that it isn't as great or flawless as some make it out to be.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Nobody is suggesting that every single member of the FFXIV community is a bad apple. They're simply pointing out that it isn't as great or flawless as some make it out to be.

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Has that been the narrative at all recently? I’ve not seen anyone say that without pushback in a good couple of years, not since SHB launched at least. Hell, most discussions of the community and its good qualities includes disclaimers explicitly stating that the community is imperfect and very YMMV.

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Originally Posted by Rinhi

all the people with ultimate and savage mounts stopped bothering him when he brought up reporting them, lol

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Trying to shift the the blame on raiders with baseless claims is pretty lame. Even ignoring the fact that "ultimates mounts" is something you just made up, almost every single mounts hounding him are non raid.

He's lucky this isn't a wpvp game or he's face what he got on wow classic- stream snipers following him everywhere with raids just camping him. His 'fans' look to be stalking him and messing with his ability to finish quests; I imagine that'll be super annoying. Personally I'd find having dozens of people following me everywhere really distracting when trying to enjoy the story.

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Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus

He's lucky this isn't a wpvp game or he's face what he got on wow classic- stream snipers following him everywhere with raids just camping him. His 'fans' look to be stalking him and messing with his ability to finish quests; I imagine that'll be super annoying. Personally I'd find having dozens of people following me everywhere really distracting when trying to enjoy the story.

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People actually did that? Geez...

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Originally Posted by juicybug

People are being very rude to him and disrupting his gameplay experience with memes and toxicity - following him around and spamming their bright skills for example such as holy. I guess this is the best of what the FF community has to offer to a sprout rather than being welcoming and letting him mind his own and enjoy the game in the same was as all of us were allowed to. please, be respectful. don't chase people away that could potentially bring in more players.

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It's not the FFXIV community doing it to him.

It's his own community doing it to him like they always do - and he knows it.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

It's not the FFXIV community doing it to him.

It's his own community doing it to him like they always do - and he knows it.

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Both. These are not mutually exclusive.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

It's his own community doing it to him like they always do - and he knows it.

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Many of his griefers are _very_ experienced FF14 players. They are maxlevel, have high level mounts, savage gear etc. I doubt that many of those FF14 players are Asmongold fans.



Cheers

Sounds like a normal stream from someone who is huge popular, really.
But I got to see how much of a mess the server can be and I thought hunt trains were obnoxious to move around!

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

I doubt that many of those FF14 players are Asmongold fans.

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Why would you doubt that, on page 92 of the Asmongold topic on the FFXIV official forums?

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Many of his griefers are _very_ experienced FF14 players. They are maxlevel, have high level mounts, savage gear etc. I doubt that many of those FF14 players are Asmongold fans.



Cheers

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I don't know, we have a triple legend who's dream came true because of this.

Where there's one, there's always more.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

Why would you doubt that, on page 92 of the Asmongold topic on the FFXIV official forums?

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I guess those griefers are Asmongold haters.


Cheers

To those following and harassing him to prevent him from playing, well done. You're actively shooting our collective foot by generating terrible PR for people who haven't tried the game yet. This makes for a great first impression of the game and the community.

Today a small but extremely visible portion of the FFXIV community woke up and chose to act like morons in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

Well done. We're all embarrassed by you. Good job.

Of course he's on my server. :/ One can only blame all the hype that's been generated over him coming on for most of what's happening right now. Otherwise no one would care. I still don't.

This is what happens when you drink deep of your own celebrity. I hope things die down quickly so he can enjoy the game without the papparazzi. Someone should let him know about turing off effects and putting himself on busy to help alieviate some of the stalkers/griefers.

I feel like this tomfoolery is just going to generate bad press for the game. Are we perfect as a community? No. But his presence is generating an extreme and abnormal reaction, IMO. Too bad he chose the salt server. XD

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Originally Posted by Rae88

Today a small but extremely visible portion of the FFXIV community woke up and chose to act like morons in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

Well done. We're all embarrassed by you. Good job.

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Following around Asmongold and spamming effects around him is all it takes to to embarrass the community? Man, doesn't take much does it?

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Originally Posted by Raskbuck

To those following and harassing him to prevent him from playing, well done.

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He seems to be able to play the game just fine.
He even sounds excited to keep playing

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Following around Asmongold and spamming effects around him is all it takes to to embarrass the community? Man, doesn't take much does it?



He seems to be able to play the game just fine.
He even sounds excited to keep playing

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I'm watching the stream and he keeps mentioning how troublesome it is trying to play with people harassing him. His chat is constantly complaining about it too, since you can't see the actual gameplay when he fights or runs around, only a mob of players with endgame mounts who troll his quest kills.

Watching people one-shot everything is super annoying.
It was expected but ffs let him play the damn game.

Edit: Imo, just for PR and marketing purposes.
I actually think SE should have GM's watching him and porting away people doing that and warning them, it should constitute as harassment.
It just looks terrible and is boring to watch, it reflects negatively on the game and the community.

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

Many of his griefers are _very_ experienced FF14 players. They are maxlevel, have high level mounts, savage gear etc. I doubt that many of those FF14 players are Asmongold fans.



Cheers

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Most of his viewers don't actually play WoW, I am pretty sure he has talked about this before.
They probably used to but *many* have moved on but still watch his Streams.

I'd know because I am one of them.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Following around Asmongold and spamming effects around him is all it takes to to embarrass the community? Man, doesn't take much does it?

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The worst of it has passed. Initially a large group of people were getting on their biggest mounts to hide quests destinations, tagging mobs so he couldn't kill them, and other things. There's also a rumour being suggested on the r/ffxiv discord that a discord has been set up just to mess with him and there was chatter in zone chat on how people should impede his progress. It's pathetic behaviour.

He did say he would have reported those people because of how annoying and distracting it was, but with the ridiculous number of people, he would be busy reporting people for a couple of hours to list them all, which means he wouldn't be actually playing the content, and his main goal is to play FFXIV. A shame, really.