fflogs and privacy

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

Can people not "carry their own weight" and not care about their logs at the same time? They're not mutually exclusive.

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If they don't care about their logs then why is FFLogs a problem?

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

Can people not "carry their own weight" and not care about their logs at the same time? They're not mutually exclusive.

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If you don't care about your performance, you are likely not "carrying your own weight".

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Originally Posted by brinn12

Just keep in mind that people like you are the reason we don't have ACT in FFXIV. Probably never will. And any instance of using it is illegal, while other MMOs either have it or allow third party usage, like you pointed out. You're being part of the problem, not the people you're referring to.

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In terms of usage, it’s like ACT is legal

I bet at least 80-90% of the Ex/Savage/Ultimate pf you join, someone have ACT running

Even if SE makes ACT legal, harassment will still not be allowed

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

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Well if you dont care about your logs you should not join EX+ pf

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

If they don't care about their logs then why is FFLogs a problem?

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It isn't? Until someone starts bugging you about it anyway

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Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis

Well if you dont care about your logs you should not join EX+ pf

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I don't think every single ex+ pf relies 100% on logs, but if thats how you determine which pfs you join, thats cool.

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Originally Posted by Collin_Sky

If you don't care about your performance, you are likely not "carrying your own weight".

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So good logs = good player, bad logs = bad player...? Yikes.

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

So good logs = good player, bad logs = bad player...? Yikes.

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I said nothing about logs. I said not caring about your performance.

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Originally Posted by Lilapop

So good logs = good player, bad logs = bad player...? Yikes.

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Kinda yes, like i said earlier, lets take it a step further

You clear a fight, you didnt die, your log is bottom grey, and that means since you even didnt die that you are lacking fundamentals of your class.

Idk sometimes i think that people think to even reach Green/Blue Logs you need already to play very very good which isnt even true, to reach blue you just need to understand the core of your class and press buttons, if you are constant grey you straight up lack every fundamental and core the class has

Not everyone has problems with the numbers site because they don't want to improve. In addition to percentage numbers, people are also kicking people for many other things that they should have no way of knowing, like number of clears/prog point/boss HP%.

Like for example, let's say I'm extremely confident in mechanic C and don't make any mistakes during it, so I go and join a prog PF for mechanic D, but I get kicked because I've never seen mechanic D due to the fact that my party keeps wiping to someone not doing mechanic C properly and so boss never starts casting mechanic D.

Or another example, let's say I clear savage week 1 and want to clear for my alt too, so I join a clear PF and get kicked because I have no logged amount of prog on that character. Does that mean I should go and join prog PFs even though I gain no benefit from it at all?