Tanks holding fights hostage in Roulettes

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

This concept only works if we had any power to deny someone the right to solo the boss if the party doesn’t want it

If there was a vote force wipe the other party members could instigate on the offending tank if they want to wipe then they should have that choice

The whole problem with this tank soloing business is you are literally held hostage, you can’t leave, you can’t kick them, you can’t do anything besides wait for them or fully quit the game

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I get you. But my answer is just do pre-mades if you don't want to run into that or play the tank yourself. If you don't want to, thats fine but my opinion remains the same. Its a pug so u just gotta deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Asako

No one is holding you hostage, you just make yourself victims. It's not the same thing. If you don't like it leave and be done with it. You'll find hostages in real life just don't have the option to just leave when they don't like something, so stop calling it something it's not.

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Can't leave whilst in combat.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Can't leave whilst in combat.

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Can leave if you revive, which is what you need to do anyway if everyone except the tank is dead.

... You didn't forget about that, did you?

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

So following along from this logic it’s my right to just run off the edge of the map at the start of the fight with the expectation the tank won’t want to reset and so will kill the boss for me?

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Yeah that is within your right, but in your that case if you refuse to accept the rez or something the group could report you for willfully not playing, now if you took the raise and kept doing it. Meh, outside of you saying something in chat or having an established pattern doubt even a GM would say what you are doing is inherently wrong since you could just say you are a bad player for whatever reason.

It is DF you run into all types, you are free to do what you want if it falls within the rules and the party does not remove you. Though the difference between the tank is they are actively playing, while in your case you are actively not playing which I do think is against the ToS if it can be proven but I do get that such a thing is hard to prove just like it would be hard to prove the tank is finishing the fight to troll their group.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Ah what a choice:

Sit there actively feeling your braincells die while watching a guy get his rocks off on soloing a boss for 15m or take a 30m penalty.

Which would you choose?

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Would either watch something else while I wait, or I eat the timer just depends on what I am feeling in the moment.

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Originally Posted by localareanetwork

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that person and most of the other people who play tank that enjoy this sort of thing have never actually played tank in an encounter that requires them to actually help their party members to clear.

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How do you define help? Like being in a static and stuff? Yeah I am in one. If I don't want to deal with the random nature of DF I would queue with friends instead of complain about the people you get in DF.

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Originally Posted by Asako

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Lol, lmao even.

Tank: *sticks nose up in air* "Yes you simpletons, talk amongst yourselves on the ground while I, THE TANK HERO, go to fight the boss" *skips into puddle*

See, the things is that this is a party game. No one should have this much of a grand mindset. We are generally here to have fun and if mistake happen, then oh well. I am happy when I get to work along side my tank, but seriously that kind of mindset can go kick rocks.

I do hope you have a good day though! Oh! And Asako is a really pretty name, "Morning child" is the meaning and it is lovely.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

The whole problem with this tank soloing business is you are literally held hostage, you can’t leave, you can’t kick them, you can’t do anything besides wait for them or fully quit the game

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You could also
1) Pull out your phone, post [SE pls. These tanks are holding us hostages, send help] on twitter, and watch the shitstorm
OR
2) Adopt a dont care attitude and browse cat memes while someone is having their hero moment.

I'm going to reveal the secret cheat code to avoid this.
People were mad and tried to stop me, but I won't budge!

Are you ready?
Here it comes:

/fc Hey I'm going to run [insert here], anyone wanna join?

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Originally Posted by TBerry

Can leave if you revive, which is what you need to do anyway if everyone except the tank is dead.

... You didn't forget about that, did you?

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Can't revive and leave the group when the tank refuses to wipe.

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Can't revive and leave the group when the tank refuses to wipe.

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The second you die a window pops up that asks you if you want to return to the start of a dungeon. It only doesn't work if it's a trial or normal raid.

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Originally Posted by TBerry

I'm going to reveal the secret cheat code to avoid this.
People were mad and tried to stop me, but I won't budge!

Are you ready?
Here it comes:

/fc Hey I'm going to run [insert here], anyone wanna join?

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- Sorry im doing [insert here] right now.
- We are farming Mount/Fate/Hunt
- Im' doing my roulette, maybe later
- too busy crafting
- Im' not in the mood

Etc... etc...