Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

You're right. I didn't have time to proofread my post before I left, and I hadn't considered that you'd try to make that point because it was never the problem in the first place. Also, that technically is basically already the case; there are just a few outliers like the people on Mateus and Dynamis.

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House hoarding isn't part of the shortage problem? Sure it isn't. It's not like there haven't been threads posted on here with people showing entire wards owned by single individuals across multiple servers or anything. Nah, that couldn't be part of the problem.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

What good is the lottery system? It isnt? That's what I'm saying. Neither is the ward system. They both suck. Maybe it's because you think people are upset about the smalls, exclusively; and you're disregarding anyone else.

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The lottery system seems to be working for a lot of people and if other people really, really want a house like they claim then they should care about the smalls. Just because they're not the "ideal" house they are often disregarded.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

Or maybe it's because you moved to a data center no one plays on, and you expect everyone else to abandon their friends or FC, because if they don't then they simply aren't taking it seriously enough. Go to a literal foreign data center and deal with foreign ping so you can get a shot at a small. Spectacular, really, and not at all desperate.

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My server is one of the most populated on the data center and I haven't had any issue with any content since transfering. I also never told anyone to abandon anything if they didn't want to and by the way, I have a medium and a small so make of that what you will.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

I know enough to know that it's working properly. What's more hilarious is that just as many people are saying "buh nuh servers" whilst also allegedly being just as clueless about it as I am.

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So basically you know diddly and are just full of hot air.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

You truly are out of your mind if you think they're breaking even on Final Fantasy XIV. It's their most profitable game. They literally just made a shoddy port of Gaia's outfit on the mogstation to sell for whatever much a pop; and they re-used assets in Endwalker for quite a lot of gear. You really think they're doing their best? Or do you think it's actually a good thing that they're so awful they use it to keep themselves afloat and nothing else?

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And most of their profits get pulled into other projects. XIV pretty much keeps Sqeenix afloat.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

The "whos fault is that" is directed at SE. Because it's their fault. I've never held anyone else responsible, not even RMTers or people who hold multiple houses, unlike you. Them acting like sociopaths about it and exacerbating the problem slightly doesn't mean they're the reason people can't find plots. Mainly because they actually aren't the problem, and it's the ward system itself.

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The ward system is inherently fine. It was the initial inception which is the problem when they didn't limit the number of houses people could own to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

That's too bad then. Maybe they should take the feedback and address it and make it clear how passive and apathetic they are to how everyone feels about it, so everyone gets a clearer picture about where and how they should be spending their money. They've yet to address it in 2023, post lottery or post 6.3, but since they've opted to try something new and its clear it's unsustainable, it's worth talking about. Also, I'm not going to stop.

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As long as people keep subscribing and logging in then to them everything is fine.

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Originally Posted by Joven

House hoarding isn't part of the shortage problem? Sure it isn't. It's not like there haven't been threads posted on here with people showing entire wards owned by single individuals across multiple servers or anything. Nah, that couldn't be part of the problem.

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I love how sarcastic you are about it. Have you bothered to check the house bid counts and the amounts per size and per plot? No, the few wards in one or two zones a couple of shitty people managed to destroy on Mateus, and likely one other server in particular are not the reason. Key word is "part." Thats why I used the word "outlier." They're not empathetic about it, and it doesn't help, but it would still be roughly about as bad even if they weren't there. Hilariously, maybe the reason Square Enix turns a blind eye to them is because they pay their subs; which should be further proof to you that they simply don't care as long as they make more money. Perhaps not the kind of community you should try to foster?

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Originally Posted by Joven

The lottery system seems to be working for a lot of people and if other people really, really want a house like they claim then they should care about the smalls. Just because they're not the "ideal" house they are often disregarded.

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That's because smalls suck, and people actually don't want them almost as much as they don't want apartments. Their decoration count is pitiful and they afford little to no space for more complex building. Something not being "ideal" shouldn't be the objective when you have the ability to make it "ideal.

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Originally Posted by Joven

My server is one of the most populated on the data center and I haven't had any issue with any content since transfering. I also never told anyone to abandon anything if they didn't want to and by the way, I have a medium and a small so make of that what you will.

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I'm sure everyone on either coast of the US would have spectacular ping on Oceanic and European servers. Smalls aren't worth transferring to another datacenter over for, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by Joven

So basically you know diddly and are just full of hot air.

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That means everyone you previously cited as reliable as to why instanced housing can't work also is a clueless, stupid idiot and doesn't know anything.

What's worse? Saying "respond to this horrible problem and/or fix it" or saying "They cant fix it!!! this guy in the thread made shit up so no money would fall out of SE's pocket!"

At least I bothered to do the math and look?

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Originally Posted by Joven

And most of their profits get pulled into other projects. XIV pretty much keeps Sqeenix afloat.

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So it's their fault?

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The ward system is inherently fine. It was the initial inception which is the problem when they didn't limit the number of houses people could own to begin with.

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No? There aren't enough houses for everyone, and there aren't enough houses in the sizes people want them to be. So it isn't fine, it sucks. This is a video-game. When things aren't fun about it, it's bad. If I wanted a similar experience and thought it'd be fun, I'd entertain myself by throwing some dice in an alley.

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Originally Posted by Joven

As long as people keep subscribing and logging in then to them everything is fine.

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That's what I mean by "how and where they should be spending their money." Eventually they'll stop. If you've played for long enough, you'll also realize they've continuously added less and less with each expansion beginning with Heavensward, despite charging the same price, in both assets and content. Housing isn't the only thing they're being cheap about. Far from it. The game grows almost exclusively due to it's community and the writing.

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Originally Posted by Amenara

"I have been trying to get a house for longer than you so I deserve it more than you" This sentiment makes me even more glad the lottery was added to put everyone on equal footing with winning a house. If you meet the requirements and have the gil to purchase there should be no other barriers from letting you try and purchase one.

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Sure it's equal, bots or people buying gil and winning your desired plot. Great system.

Bad idea, yes. But they certainly managed worse with their previous iteration. I consider it an improvement, with still a long way away before it's something remotely ideal.

So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

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So basically your whole schtick is that Squeenix isn't giving you everything you want up front and you're pouting, as evidenced by

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Originally Posted by Corvus_V

That's because smalls suck, and people actually don't want them almost as much as they don't want apartments.

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There is literally no need for anything more than a small really. Larger houses offer no benefit outside of a larger gil sink and ego. They offer no additional benefits. If you really wanted a house you wouldn't have such disdain for smalls.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.

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I think this is one thing to keep in mind, the system will (never) 'not be trash' whilst exclusivity is a thing. Where one person wins another will always lose. Whilst housing is a limited resource there is not really a good implementation that they can do - None of their previous iterations were any better than this, and to be frank, they were all worse.

Best it is make the 1 house binding to the account. Can not ever be enough for all the chara but it helping problem.

Guildhall can be the instance. As guild get strongest can get the upgrade from lodge to castle to floating city. Prevent the chara from lock many of house into 1 chara guild.

Also make the Garlemald town like the Wurlt. It have the steam and the factory and the car park.

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Originally Posted by Joven

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Your shtick is that you pay them to play and they use it to fund crap that doesn't take off and they put barely any of it back into the game, which makes you a sucker. If they profit so much from FFXIV, the expectation should be that they make FFXIV better. I would be doing the same thing if I owned a large house, just like I was against placard spamming despite always owning one. I'm thankfully not an asshole, so I can care about things that aren't just myself. Which is why I'm personally not interested in relief that simply affords me or a select few other people a chance to get a house they want, and more of one that allows anyone to decorate any size they want; because that would serve everyone.

You can direct that sentiment to everyone who wants a larger house, your egotistical-self included, since you have a medium.

All houses offer no benefit to the game's other content outside of the garden you put in the front, which was another facet of why they should be accessible to everyone, including people who want a large and have the gil to pay for it; who would then get to use 3 of them at once as opposed to 1 (so technically, you're incorrect).
In addition to FC housing, which actually has no benefit to perservering on larger houses, since the company workshop is functionally the same. And again, mostly benefits itself as a content island in that an absolute ton of sub items are minions and other aesthetics like furnishings (for a house.) Or selling those things for money. Whoops? Articulating it for like 10 seconds there made me find another reason how it actually does affect shit! Who knew?

Outside of the more obvious shit, like the decoration and size limits? You know there's no actual reason the inside has to match the size of the outside too, right?

That was never in dispute. But acting like because it's not necessary to do anything else doesn't mean its not important or that it should be disregarded. It's pretentious and disingenous at best that you think that people who don't want smalls should be satisfied with them when this doesn't have to be the case.

You also didn't disprove a single thing I said, all you did was try to psycho-analyze me. Kind of unhinged of you. Also more unhinged of you to change servers and then accuse people of pouting when they aren't content with SE not half-assing everything. Perhaps that's why it was so easy for you to leave.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

So long as houses are limited, any system they implement to try and ration them out is going to feel like trash to the people who can't get one. Only actual, proper solution is instanced housing. Or automatically expanding wards or something I guess.

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Problem is not only a limited supply but allowing anyone to bid on one. I use larges as the best example but nearly all the large FC got eaten up by personal or shell FCs, despite bidders with legitimate FCs. Unlucky? Sure. Bullshit broken system? Absolutely, that should NOT be allowed.

They need to do what Anarchy Online did. Current ward system with whatever stupid buy system they want but also instanced housing (in AO instanced was also cheaper). Then give players the option to move their ward spot to an instanced one and vise-versa.

This gives everyone what they want and lets SE keep the illusion of active wards.