[Feedback] Wuk Lamat's English Voice

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Originally Posted by Ratikal

It's bad because the thought "This sounds like a white person trying to sound Brazillian" took you out of the experience and made you realized you are playing a video game. It breaks immersion.

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Brazillian is not a race, its a nationality and ethnic, the people native to the brazillain lands of the forest and highlands would use their tribal name and affiliations first, manybrazillians are of Portuguese descent due to the fact that brazils main language is Portuguese and history of colonization

what youre refering to is gringo/Americans , and the VA herself is part puerto rican / eastern US

Idk, people seem to be complaining all over in-game. Japanese forums ain't too happy either. Even on reddit people are very mixed on the delivery and reddit is normally a hugbox.

the character is pretty good but the voice actor is pretty bad. definitely miscast.

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Originally Posted by Ratikal

It's bad because the thought "This sounds like a white person trying to sound Brazillian" took you out of the experience and made you realized you are playing a video game. It breaks immersion.

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While you are entirely correct that the voice is put on and the accent is entirely false (speaking as a south american - to note, so I know exactly what I'm talking about), I don't think Wuk even sounds vaguely brazillian. That accent is non-existent, and to be completely blunt with you, it's actually kind of extremely racist. It's basically taking the way Portuguese-speakers tend to enunciate the "E"s and "R"s heavily, then mixing it in the S-Z melding that you see in more spanish speaking countries such as Peru or Chile, and then vomiting vaguely mexican inflections over it.

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Originally Posted by Karious

Idk, people seem to be complaining all over in-game. Japanese forums ain't too happy either. Even on reddit people are very mixed on the delivery and reddit is normally a hugbox.

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Just curious, that probably means Japanese players don't like the delivery of her Japanese dub?
Or are they commenting on the English voice acting?

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Originally Posted by Loggos

Just curious, that probably means Japanese players don't like the delivery of her Japanese dub?
Or are they commenting on the English voice acting?

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Most of the complaints are about the character herself.

IMO the voice acting is perfectly fine, but wuk lamat just has a fugly mug with a perpetual no thoughts head empty look that just destroys immersion.

had to swap to jp voice for the first time since ARR. luckily old scions barely have any lines so its not a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Dysvalence

IMO the voice acting is perfectly fine, but wuk lamat just has a fugly mug with a perpetual no thoughts head empty look that just destroys immersion.

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I'm not sure if it's just femroth's in general, but they all have a weird derpy look that the males don't have imo. Some of the males they've highlighted in this expansion have been so unique and just looked so awesome..

I like her voice, but some lines just fall flat. No spoilers at all, but sometimes the dialogue is all about enthusiasm, becoming a better version of yourself, etc. and she deliver the lines in a way that reminds me when you were awkwardly told to read in front of the class. I don't mind her, but yeah, sometimes the tone of her voice does not match the dialogue presented.

Wuk lamat is too whiny. I didn't mind her voice before but now that she has more scenes and she's also been written to be annoying in every scene with 2543 cases of seasickness I can't be bothered with this character anymore. I'd rather help out Erenville and Krile. I'm only at 92 so I don't know how long she is the main focus but hopefully not much longer.

I'm only at the Feat of Pots, so maybe things will change as I get further in the story but I think Wuk Lamat's English VA is fine.
How they wrote the character is another story. I'm not saying the bones aren't bad (sheltered, impulsive princess vying for the throne) but how they wrote her makes her feel too immature and kind of inept. Hopefully, she'll grow as a character...maybe...please. (◑ ○◑)

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

I'm only at the Feat of Pots, so maybe things will change as I get further in the story but I think Wuk Lamat's English VA is fine.
How they wrote the character is another story. I'm not saying the bones aren't bad (sheltered, impulsive princess vying for the throne) but how they wrote her makes her feel too immature and kind of inept. Hopefully, she'll grow as a character...maybe...please. (◑ ○◑)

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I think for generic dialogue the voice actor is "fine".

I feel though she lacks range. There are many scenes that there should have been more emotion or emphasis, and I wonder if she is just unable to keep in character for anything but very basic tones.

(Just adding that of course I completely agree about the writing).

So far I don't like her character much, nor her voice acting(which I like even less)

I found her overall fine -- not great, but not notably bad... except

during the intermission for the final trial. Holy crap that was bad. Like, guys, get another take. Was she under the impression those lines were delivered with her standing in an empty room, or sitting at a cafe? She's fighting an apocalyptic dimension-tearing robot, maybe... shout or sound winded or talk quicker? It totally killed the vibe during the finale.

She is far from the worst in the game. Honestly, I'd say the worst I've heard in recent memory was that cheesy sailor we encountered on the way to Tuliyollal. I did not expect that voice to come out of that man.

Using JP voices since ARR. Watched someone's stream for DT in english.~

I'm still proud I never changed from JP

Yeah, I ended up switching to JP voices. I couldn't stand the voice cracking and forced accent any more. JP she's still a terrible character, but at least she's tolerable to listen to.

halfway into the expac and damn all of the new cast is pretty bad. sounds like they're reading off a script with very little nuance. wuk lamat just stands out the most since she's written out to be this super emotive shonen protagonist

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

She is far from the worst in the game. Honestly, I'd say the worst I've heard in recent memory was that cheesy sailor we encountered on the way to Tuliyollal. I did not expect that voice to come out of that man.

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I personally hold the character they chose to be the center of attention this entire expansion, who has the most dialogue out of everyone, to higher standards than an NPC who says like 2 lines.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I personally hold the character they chose to be the center of attention this entire expansion, who has the most dialogue out of everyone, to higher standards than an NPC who says like 2 lines.

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That's nice. But this thread is indeed about her voice acting, and I was comparing her VA quality to another character, throwaway or not, in the same expansion.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

That's nice. But this thread is indeed about her voice acting, and I was comparing her VA quality to another character, throwaway or not, in the same expansion.

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I'm sure more people are irritated by Wuk than that character since the character you mentioned comes and goes in 1 minute. Meanwhile we have endless hours of Wuk. Maybe you think this is a useful comparison. I don't.

Having one fly-by-night NPC be worse than Wuk in no ways elevates the "star" of this expansion.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I'm sure more people are irritated by Wuk than that character since the character you mentioned comes and goes in 1 minute. Meanwhile we have endless hours of Wuk. Maybe you think this is a useful comparison. I don't.

Having one fly-by-night NPC be worse than Wuk in no ways elevates the "star" of this expansion.

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Thanks for your input.

The VA of Wuk Lamat doesn't have a "fake" accent. She does not have portuguese accent because she's Puerto Rican... lol

I switched to JP voices at my wife's request to listen to her favorite VA (Thancred's), and I haven't changed back to English since. The voices are much more fitting to each character, and the direction they gave to the voice actors was clearly superior. Like, it doesn't matter if you can't understand Japanese at all, just switch it and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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Originally Posted by little_diem

The VA of Wuk Lamat doesn't have a "fake" accent. She does not have portuguese accent because she's Puerto Rican... lol

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She's from kentucky (a 10 sec google proves this), you don't magically gain an accent genetically.

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Originally Posted by Plasmaspy

She's from kentucky (a 10 sec google proves this), you don't magically gain an accent genetically.

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you can be from kentucky and still be puerto rican...

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Originally Posted by little_diem

you can be from kentucky and still be puerto rican...

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But it's unlikely to have an actual Puerto Rican accent, if you lived your entire life in Kentucky...

I've never really understood why people care so much about accents. They're not even speaking the native language of the country they're taking their influence from. If a game is based in Japan, I don't need to hear Japanese people speaking English with a Japanese accent. As long as the writing and voice acting is done well, I don't care. These aren't real places with real people, it's a game.

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

But it's unlikely to have an actual Puerto Rican accent, if you lived your entire life in Kentucky...

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Do you know how she was raised, or are you making assumptions? She is not an "it." do not be disrespectful.

Wuk Lamats Voice Actor's Acting, is Dogwater. Yong Yea for example who i Generally like, did a Horrible Job voicing english Kiryu, not that any sane Person would Play Yakuza in English.
The criticism is not against the Person but the Job that was Done, at least not from me.
the Character as a whole is Ass, the voice acting is just the last nail in the Coffin of a Terrible Character.
Dont Hire Amateur's for Big main Cast Roles.

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Originally Posted by little_diem

Do you know how she was raised, or are you making assumptions? She is not an "it." do not be disrespectful.

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"It"? What are you even talking about? Where I called her "it"?

Also, where you are raised absolutely has impact. How is a secondary (unless you live in a secluded commune).

Echoing what I said before:

She's fine.

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Originally Posted by Regis_Paran

"It"? What are you even talking about? Where I called her "it"?

Also, where you are raised absolutely has impact. How is a secondary (unless you live in a secluded commune).

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you said, "But it's unlikely to have an actual Puerto Rican accent..." is that not referring to her as an "it"?

If her parents (or family members) are Puerto Rican, it is possible that she grew up bilingual and could have an accent. Portuguese is its own language and is not a dialect of Spanish. The Spanish they speak in Puerto Rico is a Caribbean variant with Canary and Andalusian influence, hence why the accent of a Puerto Rican will sound different than someone from Mexico, Spain, Columbia, etc. The only point I made when I made my original post is that her accent will sound different as she's Puerto Rican, not Portuguese. Then it turned into some silly argument about her being from Kentucky. My other point still stands: You can still be Puerto Rican and from Kentucky.

I think she's fine overall but she doesn't seem to be able to scream or yell naturally. Which I don't know if it's due to the direction or uh... natural constraints.

Personally I don't think people should blame poor writing on the VAs. And IMO it's 99% poor writing and 1% subpar voice acting.

I enjoyed the voice work of the expansion overall. I actually liked hearing American accents in the fourth zone. It just felt so... ahh... comforting as an American.

But man, the story is just terrible. In fact I think the writing was just a huge waste of the VAs' efforts.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Echoing what I said before:

She's fine.

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Yea, honestly i enjoyed the expansion immensely and I don't feel Wuk Lamat detracted. The start did feel rocky for sure, but on the whole really awesome character work all around. And while I do hope the new writers get the chance to improve, they comported themselves well for their first expansion.

Worst VA in the game, I am sorry.

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Originally Posted by little_diem

you can be from kentucky and still be puerto rican...

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I mean, you're right, but she might only be Puerto Rican by heritage. A mexican born and raised in the USA isn't the same as a mexican born and raised in Mexico.

Like, my wife is of italian heritage, lives in Brasil, and I don't expect her to have a Mario accent.

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Originally Posted by Aldath

I mean, you're right, but she might only be Puerto Rican by heritage. A mexican born and raised in the USA isn't the same as a mexican born and raised in Mexico.

Like, my wife is of italian heritage, lives in Brasil, and I don't expect her to have a Mario accent.

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Americans have always been big ones on claiming they are their heritage when they're most definitely not, as a person who is distanced from both Europe and the Americas, i will always say to the face on an American claiming they're French, Scottish, Chinese, African, German whatever, No you're just an American. 9 times out of 10 these people get some level of culture shock when they actually visit the country they purportedly claim to be of.

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Originally Posted by ZodaSoda

Americans have always been big ones on claiming they are their heritage when they're most definitely not, as a person who is distanced from both Europe and the Americas, i will always say to the face on an American claiming they're French, Scottish, Chinese, African, German whatever, No you're just an American. 9 times out of 10 these people get some level of culture shock when they actually visit the country they purportedly claim to be of.

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you do realize puerto rico is a territory of the U.S. right? and, that puerto ricans are U.S. Citizens?