Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

In a perfect world SE would just use the two clans of each reach to give people what they want. One clan being more smaller, with less muscle but still beastly and the others could be like female Roes in built. The same how they could have given the Xaela women a bigger built..but sadly these clans are nothing more than color changes..

"the Hrothgar are a burly people of lionlike appearance--or the males are, at least."
I guess adding unpopular options for the sake of variety is only important when it matches Yoshi-P's preferences. Can't wait to get more dainty waifus and musclemen in 6.0 :/

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Originally Posted by FallenWings

I like how we all like to call Viera as being strong and fierce when the majority won't play them as such and would play them like dainty waifus anyways. Lingerie racial gear doesn't really sell fierce/tough either.

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Hmmm...

There's a term for that kind of thinking. First word is a four letter word that begins with 'sl' and the second word is 'shaming'...

Not a good path of thinking to be going down.

People will play their Viera all sorts of ways. I'd not draw too many conclusions out of the glamour they then choose


I would like to see Hrothgar females. I think it's more important for the game than Viera males. As far as conceptual representation is concerned male Viera is just another human with funny ears.

But Hrothgar is actually only the second race this game has had.

And in that light... that this game actually only has two races: humans with ear/tail options and a furry... having one of the ONLY two races in FFXIV be gender locked is bad.

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Originally Posted by username1234

"the Hrothgar are a burly people of lionlike appearance--or the males are, at least."
I guess adding unpopular options for the sake of variety is only important when it matches Yoshi-P's preferences. Can't wait to get more dainty waifus and musclemen in 6.0 :/

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As far as I heard this part of the sentence was only in the english version of it, not the japanese one. So not sure how accurate this is...but at the same time I honestly would not be shocked if they do the Au Ra thing again..but of course that would piss me off a bit too..

If the dev team does add female Hrothgar down the line, I'm hoping their customization would allow you to make a regal looking cat lady.

Kind of like in these images:
https://i.ibb.co/2nFxW72/Screenshot-1.png

https://i.ibb.co/t2kx5Gb/1553639300886.jpg

Really would want to roll a strong and queenly lioness.

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Originally Posted by -JayJay-

If the dev team does add female Hrothgar down the line, I'm hoping their customization would allow you to make a regal looking cat lady.

Kind of like in these images:
https://i.ibb.co/2nFxW72/Screenshot-1.png

https://i.ibb.co/t2kx5Gb/1553639300886.jpg

Really would want to roll a strong and queenly lioness.

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well its not happening and if it does its not gonna happen any time soon. SE made the right call and its the best decision so this is nothing more than a dream thread. but lets move on and keep adding things this game actually needs like that combat overhaul

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Originally Posted by guardin

well its not happening and if it does its not gonna happen any time soon. SE made the right call and its the best decision so this is nothing more than a dream thread. but lets move on and keep adding things this game actually needs like that combat overhaul

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You have no idea what their plans are in regards to this. They never said no, they just left it up in the air to temper expectations. As far as them making the right call...that's a matter of opinion. Also fun fact, there is going to be some confirmed combat system changes. What they are we don't know yet, but they are coming.

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Originally Posted by guardin

well its not happening and if it does its not gonna happen any time soon. SE made the right call and its the best decision so this is nothing more than a dream thread. but lets move on and keep adding things this game actually needs like that combat overhaul

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XD thanks for giving us your input on how you seem to know exactly what and how SE is going to do. I must remind you that male miqote were also 'likely not going t happen' and also 'if they happen it will be in the future, or as an NPC', and it seems like your character is one of them. Out of all ppl, male miqotes and female roes should at least not be rude and use that aggressive tone

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

You have no idea what their plans are in regards to this. They never said no, they just left it up in the air to temper expectations. As far as them making the right call...that's a matter of opinion. Also fun fact, there is going to be some confirmed combat system changes. What they are we don't know yet, but they are coming.

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They literally know just as much as everyone else. Close to nothing. We only know that right now they aren't here, but they could be released at 5.1, 6.0, 7.0, 8.0 or literally never ever released. No one has any idea

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Originally Posted by guardin

well its not happening and if it does its not gonna happen any time soon. SE made the right call and its the best decision so this is nothing more than a dream thread. but lets move on and keep adding things this game actually needs like that combat overhaul

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I mean, if your concern is about the combat overhaul wouldn't it be best to discuss that in a thread where that's the designated topic? I'm aware of SE's statement on adding new races and I don't expect them anytime soon or at all even considering they didn't give a firm "No" and just left it up in the air. But this is a thread showing support for the inclusion of the other gender, not about the combat changes.

They needed to just make a Viergar part bunny part lion!

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Originally Posted by zeylos

They literally know just as much as everyone else. Close to nothing. We only know that right now they aren't here, but they could be released at 5.1, 6.0, 7.0, 8.0 or literally never ever released. No one has any idea

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Exactly. So don't go making assumptions! :) However, the combat system changes are fact at this point. The details haven't been revealed to us yet though.

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Originally Posted by guardin

well its not happening and if it does its not gonna happen any time soon. SE made the right call and its the best decision so this is nothing more than a dream thread. but lets move on and keep adding things this game actually needs like that combat overhaul

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They gave no direct no and its not like they did not change their minds either in the past. I for example dont want a combat overhaul so please dont speak for everyone about what a game needs. Posting here does not hurt anybody. Just ignore the thread.

But still thanks for keeping it active.

showing my support for female hrothgar! <3 I would fantasia my main for sure.

After seeing the male Hrothgars I am not sure anymore if I would want to play a female version of it because they are too restricted if they truly cant choose other hair. But still of course I want genderlock to be gone so still in support with this thread.

So after messing around with the male hrothgar in the benchmark, barring the hairstyle concerns, I freaking love them. Please add hrothgals!

I want a buff tiger lady even more now

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Originally Posted by Yllania

I want a buff tiger lady even more now

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indeed, outside of not being able to pick hairstyle ( on male anyway )

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...114207_513.png
Just got my placeholder to 50 and waiting for that sweet fantasia. :T


Sure the males' customization options are... not great.
But their animations and expressions are wonderful and it hurts so much to just be tossed towards the sexy bunny girls when wanting to take part in playing the much needed injection of racial diversity that is the hrothgar.
They're so ripped. I want a ripped lionwoman too. :(

Honestly I'm sad this thread is overshadowed by the others. We deserve to have female Hrothgar just as much as male Viera.

Showing support for female Rhothgar

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where would you like female Hrothgar, i personally like to see them between min male Elezen and max male au ra

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Originally Posted by Yllania

I want a buff tiger lady even more now.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

https://i.imgur.com/g6o170l.png

where would you like female Hrothgar, i personally like to see them between min male Elezen and max male au ra

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I would want them to be where their males are or maybe a slightly bit taller (but please no Au Ra situation).

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Originally Posted by Alleo

I would want them to be where their males are or maybe a slightly bit taller (but please no Au Ra situation).

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Just make them as tall as the males, but not hunched. Like Trolls or whatever in WoW.

Yeah I'd be up for them being as tall as the males. Plus (almost) as bulky. Don't see many of that type in female characters, it'd be very cool.

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

Yeah I'd be up for them being as tall as the males. Plus (almost) as bulky. Don't see many of that type in female characters, it'd be very cool.

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I'm actually worried what we'd get is a cross between a female miqote and a female roe. A lot of the fan art that has been done of females since the announcement of hrothgar hasn't given them snouts. Certainly SE isn't just going to go off fan art but it's pretty common in MMOs that have beast like races that the females are more human than the males. And that is something I'm not interested in. I want to be a lioness, or a snow leopard, snout, whiskers, and all.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

I'm actually worried what we'd get is a cross between a female miqote and a female roe. A lot of the fan art that has been done of females since the announcement of hrothgar hasn't given them snouts. Certainly SE isn't just going to go off fan art but it's pretty common in MMOs that have beast like races that the females are more human than the males. And that is something I'm not interested in. I want to be a lioness, or a snow leopard, snout, whiskers, and all.

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If they are going to be a beast race, I agree that they should look like beasts, as in the features. I do not think they should be as muscular as males however, that would really put me off, personally. I'd rather have them slimmer, but fit. Like I muscular Khajiit or something (features).

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

If they are going to be a beast race, I agree that they should look like beasts, as in the features. I do not think they should be as muscular as males however, that would really put me off, personally. I'd rather have them slimmer, but fit. Like I muscular Khajiit or something (features).

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I actually hate how they did khajiit tails. GW2 female Charr had on average smaller build options than males, that's more what I'd like to see. I don't want a domestic kitten to the fully wild big cat males.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

I actually hate how they did khajiit tails. GW2 female Charr had on average smaller build options than males, that's more what I'd like to see. I don't want a domestic kitten to the fully wild big cat males.

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If anything I feel like they would base it off modified female Roe models. Much bigger would be a lot of work (I assume) for all the current female armor sets, not even talking about potential headgear.

A custom beast head for females would probably mean hairstyles tied to faces just like the male's probably are.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

A custom beast head for females would probably mean hairstyles tied to faces just like the male's probably are.

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I don't mind the hair being tied to the face but I do feel that there are not enough face options for males at all. If they are going to lock that stuff in to make sure there isn't some sort of massive horrible clipping/modelling issue, then they really need to offer a wide selection - and a wide selection of added parts. I liked that you could remove the front braid on some hair options but I don't think it went far enough.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

I don't mind the hair being tied to the face but I do feel that there are not enough face options for males at all. If they are going to lock that stuff in to make sure there isn't some sort of massive horrible clipping/modelling issue, then they really need to offer a wide selection - and a wide selection of added parts. I liked that you could remove the front braid on some hair options but I don't think it went far enough.

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They made mention of a wolf face shortly after the Hrothgar were announced but it's nowhere to be found in the benchmark. My guess is that extra faces were planned but scrapped due to time constraints. If so it just kinda makes me wish that again they had held Hrothgar back a patch cycle so they could do more with them, as every time they've been brought up since the Japanese Fanfest it's generally in relation to crunch and how tough it is to make things work for them - with the most telling aspect being that Hrothgar weren't even reveal ready until the day before they were announced.

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Originally Posted by Enla

They made mention of a wolf face shortly after the Hrothgar were announced but it's nowhere to be found in the benchmark. My guess is that extra faces were planned but scrapped due to time constraints. If so it just kinda makes me wish that again they had held Hrothgar back a patch cycle so they could do more with them, as every time they've been brought up since the Japanese Fanfest it's generally in relation to crunch and how tough it is to make things work for them - with the most telling aspect being that Hrothgar weren't even reveal ready until the day before they were announced.

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While you have a good point about the wolf face - they showed it in a blog about a week before the benchmark was release. I guess I'd assumed that it was with the Helion, since I only played around with the Lost to make a snow leopard. (The thick tail is no where near long enough :p ) Having said that I remember clearly when we were all saying oh, the models for Au Ra aren't finished. They wouldn't possibly tie horns to faces, that would be stupid - and then when HW released there wasn't really any changes other than the generic (non racial) hair being added as an option.

Imo fen hrot should be like charr

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Originally Posted by Lozza

While you have a good point about the wolf face - they showed it in a blog about a week before the benchmark was release. I guess I'd assumed that it was with the Helion, since I only played around with the Lost to make a snow leopard. (The thick tail is no where near long enough :p ) Having said that I remember clearly when we were all saying oh, the models for Au Ra aren't finished. They wouldn't possibly tie horns to faces, that would be stupid - and then when HW released there wasn't really any changes other than the generic (non racial) hair being added as an option.

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The wolf looking head is the 2nd head.

I can get behind this

Hrothgar have a lot more potential than viera. Imho, devs should really just created their own race and not give in to fanbase demands on this one.
If I had one vote on this, I'd go for fem Hrothgar, or full race Hrothgar from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by Lozza

I'm actually worried what we'd get is a cross between a female miqote and a female roe. A lot of the fan art that has been done of females since the announcement of hrothgar hasn't given them snouts. Certainly SE isn't just going to go off fan art but it's pretty common in MMOs that have beast like races that the females are more human than the males. And that is something I'm not interested in. I want to be a lioness, or a snow leopard, snout, whiskers, and all.

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Oh absolutely. I wouldn't want them to go the WoW way and make the "beast tribe" women suddenly almost human-like, or too "cute" like they did with the Worgen - the men looked like proper badass wolves, but then they ultimately created the women to look more "cutesy", with big round eyes, like furry cartoon characters. They didn't fit at all with the style they'd created the males in and it ended up looking very bad. I sincerely hope FFXIV devs would learn from that and avoid that mistake.

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

Oh absolutely. I wouldn't want them to go the WoW way and make the "beast tribe" women suddenly almost human-like, or too "cute" like they did with the Worgen - the men looked like proper badass wolves, but then they ultimately created the women to look more "cutesy", with big round eyes, like furry cartoon characters. They didn't fit at all with the style they'd created the males in and it ended up looking very bad. I sincerely hope FFXIV devs would learn from that and avoid that mistake.

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Well the devs have confirmed that hrothgar are ronso, and the female ronso from FFX didn't look like humans with token animal features. By confirming this they have set the audience's expectations as to what a female would look like. So I'm pretty sure if we get female hrothgar then they would be suitably bestial.

And yea the female worgen were such a disappointment. The males look like they are part wolf or deadly hound, while the females look like they are part terrier :S

https://s.blogcdn.com/wow.joystiq.co...2worgentoo.jpg

It'd be a little hypocritical if they ever add female hrothgar and not make them every bit as beastly as the male counterpart given that their whole reason for making them was to give players a beastly race. I'd be so mad lol