FFXIV population decline continues

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

When you get that percent as a percentage of people who cleared the normal version, which I think is a good baseline, it's more like 30%. It's also around that much even as a percentage of people who cleared Dawntrail MSQ. The rates in JP climb to around 50%. And Lucky Bancho's stats seem to agree with that too.

And that's just people who got through M4S - it's quite common to just clear 1, 2 or 3 floors.

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...And we still have about 3 months until 7.2. It will keep creeping higher.

Time to collectively agree to stop pretending savage isn't midcore, I guess.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Time to collectively agree to stop pretending savage isn't midcore, I guess.

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Does that mean that SE have to add even harder content to make it "hardcore"?
If people consider Savage Midcore.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

Does that mean that SE have to add even harder content to make it "hardcore"?
If people consider Savage Midcore.

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Ultimate already exists. I'd say Criterion (Savage) was hardcore content too, but IDK if we're getting more of those.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

Ultimate already exists.

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ah, true.
I keep forgetting about that since I don't plan on doing them.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

https://i.imgur.com/EkL7tQ3.png

90% of the playerbase is casual but 20% cleared M4S and savage isn't midcore content. :rolleyes:

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Are you suggesting there are only 226K characters in this game? Because if you believe that 22.3% of the entire playerbase is 50,387 characters I don't know what to tell you.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Are you suggesting there are only 250K characters in this game? Because if you believe that 22.3% of the entire playerbase is 50,387 characters I don't know what to tell you.

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I'm not sure where this site (MMO-population) gets their numbers from. I'm simply using the first google search I could find.
So keep that in mind.

https://i.imgur.com/HdgkhI6.png

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Are you suggesting there are only 226K characters in this game? Because if you believe that 22.3% of the entire playerbase is 50,387 characters I don't know what to tell you.

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No, I'm not suggesting there are 226k total FFXIV characters. That's 22.3% of the 226k characters tracked by Lalachievements.

If you want more complete statistics, you can find them here:
https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58771096.html

(They're about the same)

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

I'm not sure where this site (MMO-population) gets their numbers from. I'm simply using the first google search I could find.
So keep that in mind.

https://i.imgur.com/HdgkhI6.png

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They get their numbers from the subreddits associated with the MMO. It's an ok metric for gauging how much interest there is in particular games but it won't give you a remotely accurate reading of how many actual players a game has.

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Originally Posted by BigCheez

No, I'm not suggesting there are 226k total players. That's 22.3% of the 226k characters tracker by Lalachievements.

If you want more complete statistics, you can find them here:
https://luckybancho.ldblog.jp/archives/58771096.html

(They're about the same)

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Which isn't the entire active playerbase. You can read what they are able to import. Which makes your post rolling your eyes and using an achievement tracker to defend your point off-base to the point you believe you were making.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Which isn't the entire active playerbase. You can read what they are able to import. Which makes your post rolling your eyes and using an achievement tracker to defend your point off-base to the point you believe you were making.

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It's a plenty large enough sample size.