Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

It amazes me the lack of any reading comprehension from some of the people in this thread. I'm baffled how people cannot grasp the difference between "haha Elezen are giraffes", and Lalafell players openly being called "child groomers" "peds", and other abhorrent things, as well as being openly barred from groups because they hold this weird stigma. A single thread asking for Square not to perpetuate people's terminally online stigmas against us has people saying we're acting like children for it. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

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Originally Posted by CobaltH

It amazes me the lack of any reading comprehension from some of the people in this thread. I'm baffled how people cannot grasp the difference between "haha Elezen are giraffes", and Lalafell players openly being called "child groomers" "peds", and other abhorrent things, as well as being openly barred from groups because they hold this weird stigma. A single thread asking for Square not to perpetuate people's terminally online stigmas against us has people saying we're acting like children for it. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

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The description of the chair makes no reference to children in the least but somehow people are calling it a high chair. To me, it looked like a bar stool with a back on it. I guess that makes me an alcoholic?

Also, hate to break it to you, you're not a real lalafell!

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Originally Posted by OziAuros

Imagine, if you would, someone being dumbfounded that their lalafell isn't being allowed into a bar venue. Not even one of a billion brothels, but a bar. Everyone there is going to end up with the mental picture of the little guy taking a swig. There are people out there who have chosen to play a toddler-adjacent character, and wanted to get their sippy on because they don't see the issue. There are also people out there that pick the toddler-adjacent character to go to the same bar with hopes of ERPing. Might even be with another toddler-adjacent character. How do you tell in advance which is which?

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Here's a suggestion:

If you see a short person walking into a venue and getting hammered before they start dancing, and think that's "uncomfy", then that's a you issue, not the issue of the short person. I don't dress my character as a child and I don't have my character behave as a child, because she's not a child and if you or people like you can't understand this, this is still a you issue and not a me issue or the issue of any other lalafell player.
And you know what you do with a you issue? You handle it yourself instead of putting others through a bad time because you can't handle it... you know, like an adult should.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieL

Idk, I find this funny, probably should add a pair if diapers too lol.

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lol haha that'd be funny yeah haha

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Originally Posted by CobaltH

It amazes me the lack of any reading comprehension from some of the people in this thread. I'm baffled how people cannot grasp the difference between "haha Elezen are giraffes", and Lalafell players openly being called "child groomers" "peds", and other abhorrent things, as well as being openly barred from groups because they hold this weird stigma. A single thread asking for Square not to perpetuate people's terminally online stigmas against us has people saying we're acting like children for it. Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

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Since reading comprehension seems to be an issue, here's the pushback, simplified.

1: Baby character looks like baby, player acts like baby, player and character treated like baby.
2: Putting anything that looks like a toddler in adult situations is sus. Do not defend this.

These two issues are separate. This thread is about the former, but the persecution complex just keeps going back to the latter.

Maybe just take the joke item as a joke.

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Originally Posted by PaalHenrik

The description of the chair makes no reference to children in the least but somehow people are calling it a high chair. To me, it looked like a bar stool with a back on it. I guess that makes me an alcoholic?

Also, hate to break it to you, you're not a real lalafell!

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I hate to break it to you, but I could not care less about if an online video game character represents myself as a person. What I do take issue with is being called a "ped" and "child groomer" as well as being actively shunned out of groups for simply choosing to play a gnome in a video game. Square Enix takes a no tolerance stance on this kind of online harassment, and I report it when I can, but this just gives more voice to the terminally online crowd, and that is what I take issue with.

I can't believe this is a real thread.

Go outside and touch grass, weirdo.

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Originally Posted by OziAuros

Since reading comprehension seems to be an issue, here's the pushback, simplified.

1: Baby character looks like baby, player acts like baby, player and character treated like baby.
2: Putting anything that looks like a toddler in adult situations is sus. Do not defend this.

These two issues are separate. This thread is about the former, but the persecution complex just keeps going back to the latter.

Maybe just take the joke item as a joke.

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The fact you cannot make the mental connection that a race shaped like a triangle looks nothing like children speaks more to you as a person, to be frank. The "joke" that you would prefer I take simply perpetuates the stereotype of the playerbase that you are wanting to push in your two points. I would love to hear how we are supposed to hold a discussion over something like this that you wouldn't label as childish, considering the thread has been quite civil. Or is this a "You are acting childish because you choose to speak at all." sort of thing?

I imagine like a group of lalas complaining in a high pitched voice like when you see a bunch of them going 'yay' in Limsa. xD Kinda adorable.

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Originally Posted by OziAuros

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By that logic wouldn't you be also against the chair tho? Just from looking at it i can tell already that it will be used by the kinky folks no matter what race.

Also speaking bout venues and Lalas in suggestive situations. Not trying to condone or condemn the lala side of it but all Lalas i know are without exceptions actually adults, who want to be treated (mostly lol) as such. On the other hand i know that a lot of underaged players run around Balmung and venues "for talls" who don't give a fork about with whom they do the naughty stuff with. Some venues even bragging with having underaged players working there. And lets not talk about the quicksand where the erp folks just take what they get.

Kinda silly that the ones crying about lalas crying are also the ones who are literally sexting daily in online brothels with minors. Don't think lalas are the problem here when half or more of the erp venue folks out there don't care at all about the age of their guests etc.

But ofc "you" don't know that so it's not your fault. Kinda a odd sense of morals you have there. Talk about a "get out of jail free card".