Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

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Originally Posted by linayar

Sorry, but housing is irrelevant. If you care enough about it to keep subscribing, then obviously it's worth your money.

So, if you don't play the game enough to subscribe, but you'll subscribe anyway because of housing, that's your issue. Get an apartment/FC room and let someone who actually wants to log in every month get a chance at a house.

Either way, I'm not dictating what you will spend your money on, but if it's because of housing, then that's your decision to make, so live with the consequence of that decision.

I could be wrong, but the Online Store is exactly why I don't think lack of idea is the reason.

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It’s the reason they gave so unless they’re lying, which i wouldn’t put past them.... In regards to your housing comment, my point is the housing system completely contradicts their statement of not wanting to make players have ties to the game and feel forced to sub. Someones statement of them not wanting veteran rewards to keep people subbing is a contradiction as well. Also “housing is irrelevant” Incredibly subjective. By that logic i could say firmament is irrelevant because it was created to implement ishgard housing.

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

It’s the reason they gave so unless they’re lying, which i wouldn’t put past them.... In regards to your housing comment, my point is the housing system completely contradicts their statement of not wanting to make players have ties to the game and feel forced to sub. Someones statement of them not wanting veteran rewards to keep people subbing is a contradiction as well. Also “housing is irrelevant” Incredibly subjective. By that logic i could say firmament is irrelevant because it was created to implement ishgard housing.

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Housing is a special case because of scarcity. Keeping a house is not content. Yoshida's statement on playing something else is not contradicted by the special situation with housing.

In fact, does he even say unsubscribe or just say play something else? You can keep your subscription but still spend more time on other games. Again, only you can decide what is worth your subscription.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Housing is a special case because of scarcity. Keeping a house is not content. Yoshida's statement on playing something else is not contradicted by the special situation with housing.

In fact, does he even say unsubscribe or just say play something else? You can keep your subscription but still spend more time on other games. Again, only you can decide what is worth your subscription.

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Keeping a house is content what? Housing is content. They literally release housing items and gardening as content. You literally cannot plant a lot of things without a house. Submarines and voyages are locked behind houses aka content. What kind of wack logic...

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Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami

Keeping a house is content what? Housing is content. They literally release housing items and gardening as content. You literally cannot plant a lot of things without a house. Submarines and voyages are locked behind houses aka content. What kind of wack logic...

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Subscribing just to enter a house every 45 days so you can keep the house is not content.

If you have a purpose for the house, then great, that's content and more reason to subscribe, and that doesn't contradict Yoshida's statement. If you have no reason to subscribe but just want to enter a house, that's on you.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Subscribing just to enter a house every 45 days so you can keep the house is not content.

If you have a purpose for the house, then great, that's content and more reason to subscribe, and that doesn't contradict Yoshida's statement. If you have no reason to subscribe but just want to enter a house, that's on you.

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Why did you bring up mount rewards in WoW then? Was it not to point out an incentive that is basically just a "fear of missing out", which is why people stay subbed for their houses too?
They're the same thing, except missing a mount isn't going to potentially lock you out of content.

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Originally Posted by Manuka

I don't think it's so much we're getting significantly less content, its more that for w/e reason they've decided to allocate more resources to large scale projects that don't pay off or have any longevity to them ie. Eureka, Diadem 1.0/2.0, Bozja etc. instead of smaller scale things where they can recycle assets to a degree.

Lets use Eureka for example. It was the flagship side content in Stormblood that added four sprawling new zones to traverse. It had its own unique leveling experience that integrated an entirely separate combat system that needed to be coded and balanced for, in addition a whole suite of notorious monsters with their own triggers and mechanics to be dealt with. But that's also the problem, what is the payoff for all this effort? A bunch of glamour gear, basically. That's a tough sell to get players to leave the core-grind to do this side-grind, especially if their game time is limited. As tedious as the 2.0/3.0 relics were, it was at least integrated within the content you already were doing so it was always something you could passively work towards. And most importantly, it actually populated the world by getting people to revisit things. Like just imagine for a second that rather than putting all those resources into Eureka, they completely overhauled the current Hunt system to integrate all those NMs and triggers across the existing zones, balanced logograms as a fun overworld feature where their effectiveness is based upon a separate Hunt level system that could be updated as new expansions get added? In my case I might have actually finished my Stormblood relic.

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Except Eureka was noted by devs as being more popular than they though it would be with only Pagos being the real downer, Bozja also still has mass participation I've had no problems getting CLL or DR runs & most SFs are still filled constantly even quite filled during off peak hours. Diadem is only real failure out 3 you mention other two did/are doing great.

If we could see Relic numbers for time when they were relevant you'd probably find more of the community have a Eureka/Bozja Relic then what did the Zodiac/Anima when they were relevant.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

Why did you bring up mount rewards in WoW then? Was it not to point out an incentive that is basically just a "fear of missing out", which is why people stay subbed for their houses too?
They're the same thing, except missing a mount isn't going to potentially lock you out of content.

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Because, as I stated, this was the chosen solution for the housing scarcity. The 6-month mount is not a solution to a problem. It's an actual incentive.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Because, as I stated, this was the chosen solution for the housing scarcity. The 6-month mount is not a solution to a problem. It's an actual incentive.

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How is housing not an incentive? Being a solution to something and an incentive aren't mutually exclusive things.

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Originally Posted by ZedxKayn

How is housing not an incentive? Being a solution to something and an incentive aren't mutually exclusive things.

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You're right, but one has a purpose other than to keep people subscribing. So until the housing scarcity is solved and we see that FFXIV is still using it to keep you subscribe, those are different situations.

According to the Mr. Happy interview. The lack of high-end, or just simply 'hard(er)' looks to be completely due to having an understaffed battle team. Not enough designers, or playtesters. They do not have a dedicated team for playtesting either. The devs designing content, are also the ones testing it. The easier the content, the easier it is to design and test.

The OP's point here:

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Originally Posted by strawberrycake

It seems to me that they aren't choosing a hill, they aren;t catering to causals over hardcores, and vice versa, it seems they're undermanned and doing their best to provide..

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Is pretty much proven correct, according to this information. However, I do still think they are "choosing a hill", casual content is easier to make, and will be played by more of the playerbase. Instead of having to delay these content releases, or outright not do them, they can continue releasing 'casual' or 'normal' content.