Mentor Players Kicking newer players from Duty Ques for low DPS

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

I'd run with if a meet up time could be worked out. Can run as a tank, healer or DPS, but I'm most confident in the healer role.

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Same as far as running as anything.

When do you start caring about your DPS? When you're full i270 and melded perfectly? Why is i202 too low to actually pull numbers relative to your gear? You should care to optimize your DPS at all stages of gearing. Whether that's i5, or i270. It shouldn't matter if you're level 10 and in your first guildhest, or level 60, running A12S. You push out the DPS you can push. And no, "I'm new" is never an excuse. Every single player in this game was new. We all started in the same place, level 1. Some of us had prior MMO experience. Some didn't. I've played with guys who literally started playing MMOs in XIV, who had the drive to actually try to figure out their classes, and I've played with people on their 10th MMO who can't even spell DPS.

The point is, you TRY. Maybe you fail. You've got ample resources to figure out how to play. The fact that you're posting on the forums, that are filled to the brim with class guides says you can at least find information. Why should you be exempt from playing right? Because it's "My $15"? Why is your $15 more valuable than the $45 or $105 of your group? Spoilers: It's not. So research your class, and pull decent DPS. It's not hard. I main bard. It's a really freaking easy class to pull numbers on. We had to pull numbers in the first Alex wing in gear far less than what you're wearing. Just because there's higher tiers now doesn't change the fact you should at least try.

I mean we really need to classify what a new player is. At level 60 can you consider someone new? That is cap in fairness.

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Originally Posted by Freerider

I mean we really need to classify what a new player is. At level 60 can you consider someone new? That is cap in fairness.

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We can come expansion :P

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Oh my gods can you stop with the misinformation? There is no item level sync in Sohr Khai and the OP was not undergeared for that dungeon. She would have been worse off stat wise in full 200 ilvl Aiming gear.

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It might be my personal approach here but I dont care that much about the actual stats in a case like this in the end - I dont have time to calculate that in a dungeon anyways. By wearing the wrong type of gear - both stat and ilvl-wise (several pieces 50 ilvls below the requirement?) - they're showing a lack of care for their gear and by that a lack of care for their fellow teammates. Adding the attitude they showed in this thread - nope, nope, nope. You're part of a team and that requires you to come prepared - dont tell me that the OP calculated the stats on that gear and was like "Oh yeah, I'll get this lowlevel gear because its after all better than the ilvl200 stuff!"

Grats for no one noticing that you've been running dungeons naked, I guess (even though: with the amount of healing needed in this game, I'm not surprised - I've healed myself through the first two groups of neverreap when it was current content on my paladin because the healer dc'd) - I know its mostly about the weapon, but in this cases its also about your attitude. And if that is "I only care that I get to do MY stuff now" its unrespectful towards everyone else. You're part of a team, act like it.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Not to be one of those creepers dude, but, looked up your character on Lodestone. Your gear is "fine" (used loosely- should really upgrade your accessories too), however you really need to get your lancer up to 34. Blood for Blood for the DPS, but more importantly, you lack invigorate. You have no sustainable DPS, especially an AoE intensive dungeon like SAHM (when you get to it).

Basically, you failed to do your part as a DPS, but came here to complain. It's probably situations like this that are why SE is doing the whole role system instead of the cross class system.

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You mean especially like every single dungeon. You're expected to be able to AoE trash, I've kicked plenty of people for refusing to do that basic aspect of dps.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

We can come expansion :P

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Very true.

Not sure if this was asked before, since I stopped reading some pages before, so I'm sorry if it's a double.

How did OP know it was the mentor kicking?
You don't get to know who started the vote kick and if there were not 3 mentors in there you can't be sure at all it was "the" mentor who started the vote. o.O

Unless, of course, the person said "I will start a vote kick to get you out of here."...

I get annoyed at slow runs cause of DPS but why would anyone actually kick someone because of it? Just get through it and keep your commendation.

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Originally Posted by Chiramu

I get annoyed at slow runs cause of DPS but why would anyone actually kick someone because of it? Just get through it and keep your commendation.

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Yeah but if there is a dps check and you can't beat it no com for you XD