YOU THINK THIS IS FAIR ???

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Originally Posted by LionheartQ

In this case, "Your" was correct. =P

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i wouldnt even bother trying to correct him, his a illiterate trying to teach, the irony.

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Originally Posted by Higgybaby

There's nothing dipshitty about it; did she really need a label on her coffee cup to indicate that the liquid was hot? Really? Are we that much of a moronic nation that we need warning signs and caution labels everywhere so we don't commit mass levels of stupidity? What type of coffee ISN'T hot?

Yeah, it sucks she injured herself, but it was pretty much her own fault.

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How much do you actually know about this? She didn't sue TO PUT labels on the coffee. She "sued" when McD only offered a few hundred bucks toward her expensive-ass hospital bill (which btw was not 5mill). You act like she didn't know the shit was hot. People know coffee is hot. However, no one expects to accidentally spill some to the point where they need skin grafts. Her spilling the coffee was an accident. Her needing hundreds of thousand of dollars in medical attention is McD's fault. Prior to that, McD had already been hit with hundreds of reports of severe burns. Get a grip.

Let me reestablish:
I spill coffee I just made on me. Shit that burns. Whoops
That coffee that spilled on her. Oh my god my sweatpants have literally melted into my leg and I need skin grafts.

Wait a minute, wait a DARN minute...

You only get 3 strikes... that's the rule, 4 strikes is just plain silly...

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/up...rikes-pics.jpg

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Originally Posted by LessLoveLess8

Grammer has nothing to do with a lawsuit >.> u think the person who caused the "coffee is hot" labels for mcdonalds was literate or grammatically correct? no, but she did make off with 5 mil.

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She actually only walked away with $640k, received 3rd degree burns across 6% of her body (specifically her legs and groin), required skin grafts, and initially was only looking for a settlement of $20k to cover her medical costs. Give this link a read about the whole incident, as the lawsuit was hardly frivolous; the media only spun it that way because it got more ratings. ( http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm )

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Originally Posted by Drakent

i wouldnt even bother trying to correct him, his a illiterate trying to teach, the irony.

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quoting the hilariousness of this statement for obvious reasons

I dont know about this coffe sue issue, But did you know that a lady put her trailer on cruise control and left her seat to use the bathroom and obviously the trailer crash, well she won the lawsue b/c the manual never warn her about not leaving the seat while under cruise control , Or how about the case where a Thief sue the house owner for braking his leg for trying to rob him

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Originally Posted by Drakent

I dont know about this coffe sue issue, But did you know that a lady put her trailer on cruise control and left her seat to use the bathroom and obviously the trailer crash, well she won the lawsue b/c the manual never warn her about not leaving the seat while under cruise control , Or how about the case where a Thief sue the house owner for braking his leg for trying to rob him

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your posts are hard to read. but made more hilarious when I read them looking at your avatar.

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Originally Posted by Drakent

I dont know about this coffe sue issue, But did you know that a lady put her trailer on cruise control and left her seat to use the bathroom and obviously the trailer crash, well she won the lawsue b/c the manual never warn her about not leaving the seat while under cruise control , Or how about the case where a Thief sue the house owner for braking his leg for trying to rob him

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I don't know about this trailer crash, but this second one you're talking about is a myth. Also I'm curious as to why you're trying to come up with examples of "frivolous" lawsuits. It's as if you're comparing them to your own baseless threats of suing.

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Originally Posted by Refmo

I don't know about this trailer crash, but this second one you're talking about is a myth. Also I'm curious as to why you're trying to come up with examples of "frivolous" lawsuits. It's as if you're comparing them to your own baseless threats of suing.

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Is not a myth and not comparing just educating you on real fact

lol Good luck with your lawsuit... if you win I'll jump off of a bridge.

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Originally Posted by Tenshodo

lol Good luck with your lawsuit... if you win I'll jump off of a bridge.

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lol no worries. it's just a 12 year old being a 12 year old.

Drakent: go play outside, little one.

Here's the thing that gets me, all these people say "Hey they're working on it, they told us what's wrong, etc. . . ." and they treat SE like they're some kind of indie company that just started. Their naievete makes me laugh!
They know how popular the franchise is
They know how many pre-orders they received
They know how much stress is put on MMO servers when they launch
They know how many copies of the game they anticipated selling
They included disclaimers on some people's receipts stating they may not be able to play the game.

So when you add all that up, either they're completely incompetent (as they didn't build for what they knew was coming) or their business model is such that they launched knowing they couldn't meet the demand but that players would be loyal and the losses incurred would be acceptable. You pick. . . But at the end of the day, I'm sure you could successfully file and win a class action suit, in fact it may be what the genre needs, so developers wouldn't do this, they can release paid beta's like everyone else who needs more funding in order to build in resiliency and increase capacity.

Oh and just one more point, they don't kick afk players, so the load on their servers is their own doing; the long time to log in and the no afk kick, means if you get in, you're not going to log out cause if you do, it may be a week or a month before you can play again . . . . .

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Originally Posted by Tenshodo

lol Good luck with your lawsuit... if you win I'll jump off of a bridge.

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where are you morrons coming from? does this thread say's law sue and when did i use the word sue on it? shit i know my grammar is bad at least i can speak too language but i rather have bad grammar then being a idiot with lack of reading comprehension that can only speak one language . and Emeroth you either trailer trash or from the hood because you are very uneducated , using bad grammar or age is a terrbile example to prove a point just make you look stupid.

All this thread is sayign that is not rigth for the lack costumer serive and no ligal to withdraw none authorize funding out of my account and not be able to do anything about it for over 4 days b/c of they have shity service

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Originally Posted by Drakent

where are you morrons coming from? does this thread say's law sue and when did i use the word sue on it?

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no, but this thread you started 15 minutes before this one does say "sue". with many exclamation points.

and it's spelled 'moron'. how do kids like you remember breathe?

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Originally Posted by Ameroth

no, but this thread you started 15 minutes before this one does say "sue". with many exclamation points.

and it's spelled 'moron'. how do kids like you remember breathe?

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This and that are different shit is a reason i made a different post sorry you to stupid to know the difference, and how is it that stupid ppl like you know how to breathe?

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Originally Posted by Drakent

This and that are different shit is a reason i made a different post sorry you to stupid to know the difference, and how is it that stupid ppl like you know how to breathe?

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lol okay kid.

nice come back, by the way. totally original and well thought-out

I'd like to point a couple things out in regards to the main two points I've seen in this thread.

Currently, I've studied business law and had some insight into this Mcdonalds Hot Coffee case or Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants. I'm not going to link to the case brief, because most people don't know how to get through (they're very long, repetitive, and some times complicated) so I'll just suggest if you're remotely interested head to wikipedia.

I'm not putting any of this information here to persuade posters or to point out how wrong or right their opinions may be.

Facts:
*Mcdonalds sold their coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C), which causes third degree burns in "two to seven seconds." Other establishments sell their coffee at lower temperatures. Here is a fun fact most people do not know, Mcdonalds had more than 700 reports between 1982-1992 from burn victims from customers that bought their coffee and had $500,000 in settlements.

(After this case was presented, the temperature that Mcdonalds serves their coffee was found to be standard. There were two other establishments that sold their coffee hotter.)

The woman also didn't just 'get' 5 million. She didn't even get 1 million. The jury awarded her comparative negligence, which reduces damages based on fault. Liebeck was found to be 20% at fault, so 20% of her damages was reduced from $200,000. They awarded her 2.7 million in punitive damages, which is punishment against Mcdonalds since this issue was a repeat offense. The judge adjusted the award to $480,000. Mcdonalds and Liebeck settled for less than $600,000.

So no, she did not get 5million dollars for having hot coffee spelt on her. She ended up with less than $600,000.

Companies do this all the time. If you'd like a huge example of this, go look up the history on the Ford Pinto. Anyways, the implication was that Mcdonalds knew their coffee was far too hot and dangerous. The reason why, after 700 of their customers being turned into burn victims, they refused to lower the temperature was because they deduced that the difference between their profit from selling coffee that stays hotter longer than their competition outweighed the costs in lawsuit damages from victims being burned.


Take that information and do with it what you will.

This relates to FFXIV: ARR with the fact that I'm sure SE weighed out the costs of new servers to their estimated playerbase on launch. The pre-order numbers must have been much lower than their estimated playerbase for NA / EU. Who knows, not me. I'm not at all in support of dragging SE to court. Anyhow, I've got a game to play :)

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post1132817

the producer comes with news...but NOTHING about people who bought the game on psn europe!!!!

the compensation to all is 7 days...and the new servers come 4th september...

so no solution for us till 4th september...

i want 7 days plus all the days i've lost since i bought the game...since i bought the game i can't even register the game...this is a joke. He only talks about people from EA...wtf...

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Originally Posted by Cawesome

You think this is a mother fucking game?

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Just read this whole thread and this single line is by far the funniest thing I've read all day. Have me over here rolling while dealing with 1017.

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Originally Posted by RufusBlynk

My apologies. 'tis been corrected.

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I'll let this one slide.

I see all this talk about a whiny brat who thinks he was wronged in a "Transaction" Error. That he now intends to file the charges as fraud instead of a mistake (Hope you like your card being blocked from SE and waiting 40 days for the money to be refunded) Then talk about a MCD lawsuit, yet not one person talks about the incorrect usage of baseball terms.

It is illegal, to pay for a service and not receive that service is fraud. The game is a license for service you pay upfront and a monthly fee. Being told world full try again is unacceptable. It is time they compensate people the same way they were paid (money - refund, free month or something else of real world value).

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Originally Posted by FoxxElite

It is illegal, to pay for a service and not receive that service is fraud.

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going to say this again for the illiterate:

if you have played longer than zero minutes, you have been given exactly what SE promised. Their TOS states no guarantee of 100% uptime. In fact, quite the opposite. you can all bitch and moan, and threaten lawsuits (lel), but you accepted a TOS when you signed up. Just deal with it. It's launch week for an MMO, and no amount of butthurt on the forums is going to fix the login issue. either sit here and spam the login queue, or go do something else with your life.

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Originally Posted by LanceAurion

I see all this talk about a whiny brat who thinks he was wronged in a "Transaction" Error. That he now intends to file the charges as fraud instead of a mistake (Hope you like your card being blocked from SE and waiting 40 days for the money to be refunded) Then talk about a MCD lawsuit, yet not one person talks about the incorrect usage of baseball terms.

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Charging over $100 transaction fee and not respond back is call fraund not a mistake and i do hope they do block it, last thing i wanna see is a nother charge on my card for a game i cant even barely play

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Originally Posted by Ameroth

going to say this again for the illiterate:

if you have played longer than zero minutes, you have been given exactly what SE promised. Their TOS states no guarantee of 100% uptime. In fact, quite the opposite. you can all bitch and moan, and threaten lawsuits (lel), but you accepted a TOS when you signed up. Just deal with it. It's launch week for an MMO, and no amount of butthurt on the forums is going to fix the login issue. either sit here and spam the login queue, or go do something else with your life.

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Hello ameroth, didnt bother reading your post, dont want to hurt my brain by trying to read your stupidity, just wanted to say hello

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Originally Posted by Drakent

Charging over $100 transaction fee and not respond back is call fraud not a mistake and i do hope they do block it, last thing i wanna see is another charge on my card for a game i cant even barely play

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No company is going to call you about a mistaken charge. You were overcharged for 3 games, you contact customer service and wait for them to respond. If they are busy, then you need to wait for them to get to you. I contacted SE about changing my Security questions and I got a notice saying they would contact me back after 24-72 hours. You will need to understand THEY'RE BUSY AND WILL GET TO YOU WHEN THEY CAN, NOT AT YOUR REQUEST.

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Originally Posted by Refmo

I don't know about this trailer crash, but this second one you're talking about is a myth. Also I'm curious as to why you're trying to come up with examples of "frivolous" lawsuits. It's as if you're comparing them to your own baseless threats of suing.

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second one is not a myth. it's true, that case is in criminal justice books when i took that class...

a more recent case is when a guy sued a korean laundry mat because his pants were ruined.

@drakent following again~ so i don't have to personally scream and yell at all the frustration SE is causing

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Originally Posted by Drakent

K This is the last straw for me from this company.

Strike 1:

So you gave me false sell's advertisement by telling me reserve your copy now and get 3 days head start, but didnt get my 3 day head start because the game was so broken i didnt get to log in does 3 days. No bigy for me

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Got the special eddition that suppose to offer digital items but never receive them, send you a email but still havent got a respond, No bigy for me i can wait for the items

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Game opening day and i still can barely play it take over 30min to 1hr to log in and ounces i get in i get only 1.5 hr to 2hr of game play b/c after that most of the time i get d/c out the game and by then is to late for me to log back in since it could take hrs to log and i have work next day so i dont bother. NO bigy for me i am happy that i can play a few hrs

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last stirke, I just check my account today and i got 3 charges of $49.99 when i only got 1 copy of the game and i cant get in contac with you guys b/c you arent open on the weekend and on top of that you arent open on monday b/c of holiday. I am sorry but i am a very patience man but ounces you mess with my hard working $ i will take it personal

This is extreamly ilegal

TO does using ad hominem on my grammar keep in mine english is my second laguage

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Yeah I got 2 charges of 79.99 for the ps3 Collectors and its been a week and no response from SE. Digital River Co., You suck! Now i'm at a big financial loss and getting overcharged for bills I can't pay!!!