Rude Welcoming.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

New player here, just got to 50, beat story, doing instances and dungeons.
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I just can't see myself wanting to do duty finder anymore even though I've had good experiences.

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Generally speaking, do not let morons hurt you, simply blacklist the player and move on, for every single one like him there will be a hundred who are not. And if someone get's really nasty, you can always report them, though I am sure most would say simply blacklisting them is enough. I don't agree, offensive and abusive players are not an asset to the community and either need to change their behavior or leave.

OP needs to find a Linkshell or a Free Company to do content like that with. This type of behavior is synonymous with any type of public match making game be it Final Fantasy, Left 4 Dead, or Call of Duty. Personally I rather wait for my FC to schedule events so I dont have to deal with people like that in the Duty Finder.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

So I enter a hard mode ifrit fight, which is easy, but the other healer kept healing with cleric stance and only used cure once in awhile and would stop it if he thought i was healing the person he was, while I did the heavy work.

Now that's not the problem. We had several wipes, I grew tired, there was nobody with aoe limit break for the nails so I said I'm tired and going to go.

I just can't see myself wanting to do duty finder anymore even though I've had good experiences.

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While the swearing wasn't required, joining a HM Ifrit then leaving after a "couple of attempts" is a jerk move. I don't consider you any less bad than them.

The DPS in that group probably queued for almost an hour, only to have one of the healers leave within a few attempts. That makes you worthy of scorn. This is not a single player game, your actions have effects on other players.

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Originally Posted by Furious

While the swearing wasn't required, joining a HM Ifrit then leaving after a "couple of attempts" is a jerk move. I don't consider you any less bad than them.

The DPS in that group probably queued for almost an hour, only to have one of the healers leave within a few attempts. That makes you worthy of scorn. This is not a single player game, your actions have effects on other players.

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You're completely off base here my friend. Sure, it would be nice if everyone could set aside several hours for repeated attempts on a difficult/long fight, but not everyone can. Everyone should remember that each person has their own priorities and life, and if someone can only spare time for 2 runs, that's what they can spare, it does not make them worthy of scorn or abuse. As much as the OP could/should have made their time constraint clear (perhaps they did so), the other players should equally recognize that in a multi-player party, over the course of 2+ hours, some people will have to leave.

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Originally Posted by Furious

While the swearing wasn't required, joining a HM Ifrit then leaving after a "couple of attempts" is a jerk move. I don't consider you any less bad than them.

The DPS in that group probably queued for almost an hour, only to have one of the healers leave within a few attempts. That makes you worthy of scorn. This is not a single player game, your actions have effects on other players.

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Furious is Furious. You're assuming a whole lot to come to that conclusion. I assume you came here to vent after having a bad experience yourself, but might I suggest you find a more productive way to do so rather than lashing out on random people that are just looking for solace after a disheartening situation.

I am sorry this happened to you... this is normal in MMO's. No matter how nice a majority of the community is, you always have that small percentage that likes to be utterly rude/elitist and only think of themselves. I know I've dealt with that type, and I am sure everyone in this game has at least once.

Please don't let it get to you... if you haven't found a really nice LS/FC look for one that is active in doing events within the group. I have a wonderful group myself, and I've done 99.9% of my instances with my LS and try to help anyone in my group that needs a run or fight. I only had to do the duty finder once to find a healer. Best of luck to you, and I hope you run into as few of those people as possible from here out~! <3

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Originally Posted by Furious

While the swearing wasn't required, joining a HM Ifrit then leaving after a "couple of attempts" is a jerk move. I don't consider you any less bad than them.

The DPS in that group probably queued for almost an hour, only to have one of the healers leave within a few attempts. That makes you worthy of scorn. This is not a single player game, your actions have effects on other players.

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No, what you just posted was a jerk move. As a healer with health issues that can unexpectedly force me to leave a group prematurely, you are the worthy of scorn for putting a GAME ahead of someone's well-being.

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Originally Posted by Furious

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But what you aren't realizing is maybe she had been waiting for a while? Maybe she'd already attempted this with others groups? We don't know, and it doesn't matter. Her leaving shouldn't have gotten that reaction, and isn't worthy of scorn. If she had only stayed for one run and then been like 'oh you guys suck I'm leaving' yeah maybe, but she stayed for several wipes and tried to help.

But you are right, this is a multi-player game so people should respect the fact that others will have to come and go at points. The actions and attitudes of people here on the forums and in game have an effect on players. Everyone should be more respective, kinder and more understanding of one another.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

Thanks?

Anyway, it is easy for me, I couldn't help that others didn't know their role in the stragety.

And it has no bias, it was taken from the chat log directly. All I said was I'm done and tired. That gives no right for people to say such things, never does anyone deserve that.

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don't worry to much about that im pretty sure does are WoW player like someone early say Final Fantasy people are nice

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Originally Posted by Furious

While the swearing wasn't required, joining a HM Ifrit then leaving after a "couple of attempts" is a jerk move. I don't consider you any less bad than them.

The DPS in that group probably queued for almost an hour, only to have one of the healers leave within a few attempts. That makes you worthy of scorn. This is not a single player game, your actions have effects on other players.

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Lol. this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. I dont care how long someone has queued. If they use abusive language at me I am leaving the instance and reporting/blacklisting them.

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Originally Posted by Silmina

As a healer with health issues that can unexpectedly force me to leave a group prematurely...

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Yeah after 8 years of WoW, I don't expect every player to be "fit as a fiddle" life happens, and if your tired your tired. Or anything else for that matter... for me its you get a rested healer who is aware of things or a half dead one who might not. So to you Silmina and the OP I do hope things look up for both of you.

Like it was said, the original jerks the OP mentioned maybe were WoW players not used to FF games? :D I don't recall my 2 years with XI having idiots like that... but then again I stuck to my linkshell, friends, and whatever the FC system was called in XI... its been such a long time... happy Final Fantasy

--Xavier :D "Ps: I'm slightly insane, I think?"

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Originally Posted by Invz

I dont care how long someone has queued. If they use abusive language at me I am leaving the instance and reporting/blacklisting them.

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People who engage their mouths (fingers) before their brains are kinda getting what they asked for at that point.

My blog is going to be half RP and half griping about crap like this. :D

:( I'm sorry you had to meet the scumbags, please don't think badly of the rest of us!
You probably did a damn good job and they were whining like little babies because they knew the next one wouldn't be as good as you!

New and you're level 50 already? If you got those type of time commitments to a game, its pretty eyebrow raising that you're new to internet tough guys, e-turds, and asshattery.

I have to say I've never experienced this kind of group in this game before. I can assure you it isn't the norm, and once the free access period ends and people have to actually pay to play the game hopefully these kinds of people will go away. In my experience, most of the FFXIV community is much better than what I've come to expect in other MMOs. Don't let it spoil it for you; I've had some great groups through the Duty Finder.

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Originally Posted by brianxavier

So to you Silmina and the OP I do hope things look up for both of you.

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Aww, thank you ^_^ I really appreciate the kind sentiment.

I played wow for almost 8 years so I've seen this happen to people alot. But so far my experience in this game have usually (luckily) all been with XI and V1.0 players and they have always went out of their way to help. Not sure what the difference between them and other mmo gamers are but its been awesome so far.

(not trying to generalize all mmo players as being difficult to get along with, just pointing out my experience with the FF vets)

It's funny, the last time I went back to WoW I leveled A Paladin tank and did a ton of Random Dungeons. Every one was really friendly and talkative until I got to about level 75, then it was all gogogogogogo and omg fail tank every time I stopped pulling for more than 5 seconds. Nice people are out there, just friend them when you find them and ignore the jack asses.

Just ignore it as most people have said already. In fact, you don't even have to give them a reason why you are leaving, just hit the leave button. The chances of you seeing them people again are slim and by that time if you do see them again, they may not even remember you and via.
People can be harsh, that why I just take my leave and not say a word. And it not like they can't get another healer to replace you, they were only being retarded.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

<f**king moron, you need a nap>
<wow, pathetic>
<why'd you even join if you're tired dumb***>

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Don't worry about them there just little kids who hang out in the LoL forums and play LoL too much.

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Originally Posted by Invz

Sounds like you're jelly of his accomplishment.

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Jelly of what? This is the part I don't understand?

I asked simply what does beating the story and being level 50 have to do with anything in her story. If they was level 12 would it of made any difference?
Since you said it explain to me what one would be jealous of? Jealous that some one has enough FREE TIME on their hands to beat the game and level up before them?

So if I have a family to tend to, a job to go to, bills to pay, I should neglect that to beat a game and get max LEVEL to avoid being called Jelly by a kid who owns nothing, has no money in his grubby hands and lives with his parents lol. Wheres the Logic in what say kid.

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Originally Posted by Wartog

Jelly of what? This is the part I don't understand?

I asked simply what does beating the story and being level 50 have to do with anything in her story. If they was level 12 would it of made any difference?
Since you said it explain to me what one would be jealous of? Jealous that some one has enough FREE TIME on their hands to beat the game and level up before them?

So if I have a family to tend to, a job to go to, bills to pay, I should neglect that to beat a game and get max LEVEL to avoid being called Jelly by a kid who owns nothing, has no money in his grubby hands and lives with his parents lol. Wheres the Logic in what say kid.

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You must be envious otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so mad. Its OK to admit it.

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Originally Posted by Wartog

Jelly of what? This is the part I don't understand?

I asked simply what does beating the story and being level 50 have to do with anything in her story. If they was level 12 would it of made any difference?
Since you said it explain to me what one would be jealous of? Jealous that some one has enough FREE TIME on their hands to beat the game and level up before them?

So if I have a family to tend to, a job to go to, bills to pay, I should neglect that to beat a game and get max LEVEL to avoid being called Jelly by a kid who owns nothing, has no money in his grubby hands and lives with his parents lol. Wheres the Logic in what say kid.

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People are making that suggestion because you're acting like an ass. Here's a more direct message; quit acting like an ass.

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Originally Posted by Zeons

So far I only had the opposite reactions (e.g.: Good job healer!).

I guess I'm just amazing.

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At 38 you're mixing with a different crowd. Legacy players are probably relaxed, its the people who made a mad dash for cap that typically have some sort of social issues.

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Originally Posted by Wartog

HERP DERP I R MAD JELLY

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They pointed out that they're level 50 as a lead-in that they were doing a HARD MODE instance. Dat reading comprehension.

Also: U MAD BRO?

http://i.imgur.com/X6Nsj5F.jpg

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

Sorry, I'll delete the thread, I don't know how to though, thought it'd be nice to hear some stories.

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Don't listen to people telling you to delete the thread, there is nothing wrong with you creating this thread.

Irony .... That comes to mind as I read this thread.

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Originally Posted by Wartog

Irony .... That comes to mind as I read this thread.

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Pray tell us, what is so ironic about this thread?

"New player here"

"just got to 50"

Holy contradiction!

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Originally Posted by Invz

Pray tell us, what is so ironic about this thread?

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Is your whole family gathered around the pc reading this thread? I noticed you used "us" instead of me.

The problem with some people is that they expect everyone to be pro on the duty finder. When you que using the duty finder you're not always going to get people who know the fights in and out, some people won't know them at all. These are the risks when you're pugging stuff. If someone wants a perfect group they're going to have to put one together on their own.

You just have to learn to take the bad with the good and not take anything to heart....I used DF for Brayflox two nights ago and wanted to chop my head off cuz I had the worst WAR on the planet tanking...let the NM sit in the poison the ENTIRE time after repeated attempts to tell him to move the mob and he got nailed easily 8/10 AoEs so being the WHM i was getting frustrated after our third wipe....so i told him he sucked re queued and found a PLD that was a boss and went 1/1.

You can report harassment in game. That sort of language is seriously unacceptable. I don't care if people just say to ignore them, they should not be talking to other people that way. Report them.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

So I enter a hard mode ifrit fight, which is easy, but the other healer kept healing with cleric stance and only used cure once in awhile and would stop it if he thought i was healing the person he was, while I did the heavy work.

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I just have to say i find this funny, if it was really that easy, it wouldn't have mattered what the other healer did, and you wouldn't have wiped. Unless my definition of easy is different than yours. Oh well. /shrug.



Sounds similar to what i experienced in Sunken Temple, never been there before, and we wipe on first boss. Tank asks me if i've ever been there before, and i say "No". He then goes off and among other things says that's "Sad." (how do i go from never being there before to being there without first going??) and how i "need tactics", which no one explains until we wipe again. Granted, they then explained them wrong (saying to not kill the adds, when we needed to, and explaining the debuff wrong). That was probably the worst run, with the best ones where no one in the party knew what to do, and even with many, many wipes we beat it. (Titan, had to basically die to things to learn what happens, and one kept getting hit even though he was clear of aoe, lag?)

So out of a all my runs, only one terrible experience, and a couple where everyone dropped for whatever reason. Most went great with people being patient. End game i'm sure is different as they are probably going to get sick of the gear grind, but so far i've had good experiences. Only people i've blacklisted are those gold spammers, ugh. They need to make that better. Already up to 20. :\

Compared to my WoW experience, i'm more happy here, as most there were basically quiet runs. Fast runs with no one saying a word, unless it's go, go, go!

There are people out there with certain expectations for end game content as far as personality or attitude and people forget that just because you may come from a hardcore guild in your previous mmo (ie; lineage/guildwars/*insert korean grinding fest mmo) that this is final fantasy and the community is going to be generally more casual attitude and/or RP friendly atmosphere. I say this because I originally came from the sort of game where bashing noobs was like a norm and if you spend years playing that sort of game I imagine some people forget how to communicate with normal mmo players lol. I was never an asshole personally but had plenty of guildies who were that way (having been in the most powerful guild on my server) and i'm used to seeing situations where 1 guild can control both the economy and the gear in an entire server. Ofcourse eventually i got a life and i look back to those days like wtf was wrong with us lol. I bet you probably ran into people like that.

the game is so easy i dont understand how people are having trouble in anything even for new players this game is a joke shouldnt been having trouble in completing anything
also if people talking bad about you just leave u dont need to stay there do u? just click duty finder again after 15min and you got a new team?? not hard everything is hand it to you. you can do anything you want quit or stay

OP's post is an issue of the DF. With out the DF we would be finding groups on our own servers and stuff like this would be a minority but with the DF there is no need to worry about how people will interact with out on your home server because of your behavior.

I feel the DF breaks a community more then it helps it (cross server filling slots) if it was only your server issues like this wouldnt be as pronounced.

Nobody really looks for a group with the DF going so there is no real community built.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Don't listen to people telling you to delete the thread, there is nothing wrong with you creating this thread.

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It strikes me as unnecessary drama, particularly the way it was approached. She berated a group of people not present to say their side, posted a carefully beneficial to her excerpt from what was undoubtedly a longer conversation, and exclaimed how great she was and how much they stunk, while she was entirely innocent.

I'm pretty sure, at the very least, this was poorly went about. There are less antagonistic ways to discuss these issues.

Wow, that's bull. Them I mean. Well I'm not 50 yet, but many in my FC are and we are on the same server as you. You want to do the end game stuff? Hunt down the Lush Knights. One of the Friendliest groups you'll meet, and feel free to add me as well in case you want to run some other things or what not.