Petition for the Fishermen, Join the Fight!

There is a huge market for the turtle pets...

-Dream Weaver joins your cause- No sushi....but..but..but..... but......

Oh wow, seriously? :(

Fishing is really fun and I enjoy doing it in any case, but I just assumed that the fish were crafting materials for culinarians. The fish really aren't useful for anything?

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Originally Posted by Krystal_Storm

There is a huge market for the turtle pets...

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This is true. That's a market that will eventually run out, since pets are pretty much one-time deals per buyer, but for the time being, it is pretty high demand.

Certainly sells better than any fish at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Ryuukishi

Oh wow, seriously? :(

Fishing is really fun and I enjoy doing it in any case, but I just assumed that the fish were crafting materials for culinarians. The fish really aren't useful for anything?

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There's usually at least one fish in every fishing location that's usable by culinarians (and sometimes goldsmiths and other classes). That said, it's often not really that useful, so there may not be much demand (or it'll be oversaturated in the market because of ease of catching it).


I'm not really fishing for profit, but the high level fish took me 6 days to sell on my server. That may be because people haven't leveled culinarians high enough to want those fish, but who knows.

The Mahi-Mahi, by the by, is only useful for a crafting dish (mind you, it's a pretty amazing crafting dish), so the demand for it isn't particularly high.

Sure, I'll sign on.

I started levelling fishing because I figured it would be super useful like it was in XI. That said, some of the leve's seem like a really easy way to make cash.

I like fishing out of all of the gathering classes, I would love for it to have more use in game!
Please SE

Someone please pin this petition back in a place where all can see it.

In the meantime, is there some kind of list which shows which fish are actually useful for something? So that we can separate the vendor trash from the little we can use!

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Originally Posted by Pandemonium

Someone please pin this petition back in a place where all can see it.

In the meantime, is there some kind of list which shows which fish are actually useful for something? So that we can separate the vendor trash from the little we can use!

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While you are unloading your stinky mess on the vendors, you will note that any items that are useful for anything say so: Crafting material. Otherwise, smack the sods with it til they give you yer clink.

I want more things to fish at 50, there's like 5 viable fish for me to fish as a 50 fisher and hundreds of fish in the game, that's silly. I want to be able to fish nebimonites for shihei, or breams/grimms for tacos, or squid for sushi, or breams for another sushi, or tunas for yet another sushi, or moat carps for lu shangs quest, or a fish that sells well to NPC, or a fish that can be gutted and gives me a very rare chance for an item that sells on the AH for millions, or fish two legendary fished that can be gutted with a very low chance to give two items that are traded in for the best fishing rod in the game, or Calimari for Shihei, or Squids for shihei, or numerous other fish I can't remember.

I seriously had over 10 different fishing spots I could fish at for gil, quests, crafting mats, useful items, etc in FFXI.

Why did FFXI have so many things to do with fish, so much to do as a fisher, and so many useful fish? It was a game within a game. Why was FFXI fishing better than FF14's in every way possible? How did we downgrade going from an 11 year old game to a brand new one? How does that happen?

my cooking thank me for have fishing.

What we need is catch and release fishing! It's just plain wrong to fish and keep the fish but not even be able to cook it. An innocent fish loses it's virtual life in vain every time someone catches one. + Ya know, fish breed and grow bigger when they're alive, more fish for everyone to catch!
(Not that we don't kill everything else that moves in this game too..) ;)

I kinda liked how Fishing works in 1.0 (as in usefulness), they supported Alchemists (Shards) and Culinarians very well, It was my plan to get it up in ARR alongside my other 2 DoLs but I've set that aside for leveling other DoHs instead.

/signed for more Fishing usefulness !

Boring bump!

I need sharks to make oil. I'll pay for your catch oh great Fishmongers of Eorzea!

Allow us to pick up shards when fishing... Please!

I agree that Fishing needs to be more useful. I really like how relaxing it is compared to the other gathering classes, but it's absurd how it's next to useless. Please make it more worthwhile!

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Originally Posted by ShirKirakira

If we can't make money off the catches, at least let us fish up cosmetic items for even more fun.

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The gigantpole minion is gotten via fishing only.

I apologize if this has already been mentioned/posted.

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Originally Posted by Yoshida

Even now, RMT can create bots to get around the timing of actions. What we don’t want is to have fishing become stressful. It is supposed to be a relaxing thing. Pressing extra buttons for actions is going to create that stress. We’re going to make sure that the stuff you get from fishing is not stuff that is going to be lucrative for RMT. The system needs to be relaxing.

What we want is for fishing to be more about what you’ve done. So maybe achievements for catching certain sizes of fish? Or having a log that keeps track of your own collection of what you’ve caught before, or how big a fish you’ve caught before, or whether you have fished in all fishing spots? Having things that are connected to you.

This is not to say we’re not thinking of other things. For example, maybe you fish up a treasure map, and that map leads to a new quest- we are planning things like that.

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I like the idea about cosmetic items. maybe some more minions, too? fishing for all kinds of random stuff would be so much fun. stuff for housing, stuff for dressing up, stuff for showing around... the possibilities are endless. people throw random stuff into the sea all the time :P

I did start leveling up my fishing and cooking simultaneously recently in hopes of being able to make gil down the line. Perhaps I chose the wrong professions to do so. Ah, wells.

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Originally Posted by Sumii

I apologize if this has already been mentioned/posted.

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Thanks for that, Sumii, but I disagree with his point of view on it. With that attitude, why now just make ALL DoL useless? Actually, let's just scrap the whole crafting/gathering thing because oh, those RMTs are too overwhelming.

In XI, the task force was the BANE of RMT. SE, bring that back. Make the RMTs simply give up like you did in XI. Show them NO mercy, SHOW THEM THEY ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.

Fishing needs to be useful... Just as any gathering class. Don't you agree, Sumii? :)

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Originally Posted by Issac

Thanks for that, Sumii, but I disagree with his point of view on it...

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Oh please don't misunderstand, I'm not in agreement with him either. They've done some pretty nasty damage to DoL/DoH. (No more commissioned repairs, can't gather dark matter, ease of getting/cost of dungeon gear vs. crafted gear's cost/stat differences). I was just putting it out there why the system was the way it was and why it was most likely going to be hard to change it. The battle system and GCD in general in alpha/beta were terrible compared to now (longer and all skills on one timer, no split). It took a huge thread and a lot of complaints for them to even compromise by changing the GCD. The original thread was screaming for it to return to 1.0's TP battle system. If the fishing is to be changed/made more profitable it'll take a good following of people.

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Originally Posted by Sumii

Oh please don't misunderstand, I'm not in agreement with him either. They've done some pretty nasty damage to DoL/DoH. (No more commissioned repairs, can't gather dark matter, ease of getting/cost of dungeon gear vs. crafted gear's cost/stat differences). I was just putting it out there why the system was the way it was and why it was most likely going to be hard to change it. The battle system and GCD in general in alpha/beta were terrible compared to now (longer and all skills on one timer, no split). It took a huge thread and a lot of complaints for them to even compromise by changing the GCD. The original thread was screaming for it to return to 1.0's TP battle system. If the fishing is to be changed/made more profitable it'll take a good following of people.

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Then my hopes are that you're an ally to count on! =D

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Originally Posted by Sumii

I apologize if this has already been mentioned/posted.

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Literally 50+ bots/speed hackers/POS hackers mining level50 nodes, and gathering level50 botany nodes on my server alone, possibly many more. That's ok but fishing bots aren't? Sick of this Fishing hatred by Yoshi.

S i g n e d.

Ah Issac, good sir, I too support fishing for more than merely sport. Glorious gils for glorious fishes!:D

36 signatures and 104 endorsements as of this hour, my smelly comrades!

Keep up the effort!

I don't fish and I'll even sign this. I'LL SIGN THIS ALL DAY.

*Sign* I agree strongly.

I agree too. I can't even say how disappointed I was to see how useless fishing is.. It's not fair!

*sign*
*sigh*

The only way I make money with fishing is selling turtle pets and raincallers. The rest is pretty much useless.
Signed.

Square-Enix confirmed before Fishing was even available they have no plans of making it a source of heavy income, should spend more time reading official information.

However that said, a few Fishermen in my FC have raked in 400k+ already, it's all about finding a market. Don't blame SE for your inability to create revenue.

really....how do FSH plan to join combat ? throw a pokeball and summon magikap ? ;D

I disagree because I can.

I agree because I'll look better.

I'm right because I posted.

Fishing's for fun. It's a mini game.

Bumping this as a non fisherman. C'mon, add more cooking recipes, more "squeeze the fish" reagents in alchemy, some minor gemstones to fish up (pearl, mother of pearl, abalone shell, and coral spring immediately to mind,) some 'random junk' to hook that might be a chance at a small item. (You have caught a Hi Potion. Whoo.) The one mini pet's a good start, and can always be expanded on. The old 900 pound gorilla WoW holds weekly (or bi weekly during some holidays) fishing tournaments down in one zone, and even had an extra raid boss you summoned by gathering special bait and fishing for it. Fishing right now is so lack luster I feel sorry for the people who levelled it thinking it was going to be one of the main complementary skills to go with cooking.

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Originally Posted by LidenBok

Square-Enix confirmed before Fishing was even available they have no plans of making it a source of heavy income, should spend more time reading official information.

However that said, a few Fishermen in my FC have raked in 400k+ already, it's all about finding a market. Don't blame SE for your inability to create revenue.

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Another who must read more carefully! While I value your opinion, lass, you overlooked what the issue is entirely! In fact, you use fallacies to discount my grievance!

This is not appreciated, and as your FC name suggests I should expect troll-bait (see bolded) from ye. Regardless, I shall give you due response as it would just be simply unbecoming of me to not weigh your opinions fairly!

Aye, you can fish til your palms blister tryin' to find those select few catches that are actually worth netting- Blacklip Oysters, Red Coral, and the pitiful selection fit for cooking. But, lass! Enjoy yer time at the soul-less sort in Hawker's Alley unloading your trash because it carries no weight in the game at all! Every other gathering profession has a use for everything it collects, why not us fishmongers?!

Indeed, I find your opinions insensitive at best!

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Originally Posted by LidenBok

Square-Enix confirmed before Fishing was even available they have no plans of making it a source of heavy income, should spend more time reading official information.

However that said, a few Fishermen in my FC have raked in 400k+ already, it's all about finding a market. Don't blame SE for your inability to create revenue.

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You Sir get my Like.

I love being fisherman. The only job that I can play with one hand while holding my baby. Thus, I can get a glimmer of approval from my wife for gaming.

I couldn't agree more. I will definitely /sign

I definitely agree... I can't say that fishing is worthless as I've made a good million or so selling two or three things basically primarily, but there should be more that are useful.